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Agree with DaveO. Prescott and Mossop, wjo let's remember was running great lines as a 2nd rower last year and is still on 22 ! So when Fielden is back it has to be Coley for me who is dropped. His error rate ... gonna be hit with 'Bilko Stats' now ... just seems to high. Every match 'not square', or Poor PTB penalties against 'old Andy'... Even Lima seems to be stepping up !

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Very good tonight.

I agree about Fielden and what a fight he faces to get a place back but can't see Coley as the man under most pressure. He was immense last week at Saints and his stats for that game were crazy good.

As it stands I think he's struggling for a place tbh unless one of the 4 loses form or gets injured. I can't believe I'm saying that because I'm a big fan of Fielden.

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Quote: MattyB "I still think we have another gear or two to go up yet, which is frightening. Our defence has started to show how ruthless we can be when on song (like last season).'"


It's taken a while but I think we are starting to look more like last seasons team. I don't think we did for the first half of the season.

If as seems obvious we are gong to persist with Sam at 1 then I was really pleased to see that Micky Mac and TL are sharing the hooking. So will someone please put Deacon in a padded cell betwen games? He is a key player as having him at 7 lets s have the two hookers.

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Quote: MattyB "I still think we have another gear or two to go up yet, which is frightening. Our defence has started to show how ruthless we can be when on song (like last season).'"


didnt even need to get into gear 2night hahaha

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Quote: Cumbrian Pie Man "Agree with DaveO. Prescott and Mossop, wjo let's remember was running great lines as a 2nd rower last year and is still on 22 ! So when Fielden is back it has to be Coley for me who is dropped. His error rate ... gonna be hit with 'Bilko Stats' now ... just seems to high. Every match 'not square', or Poor PTB penalties against 'old Andy'... Even Lima seems to be stepping up !'"


I think what you are saying about the errors are what could cost Coley his place but at the same time I agree with NickyKiss about his stats and work rate. He is a player who benefited immensely from a change of coach IMO but could only do so if he got with the program and he did.

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Coley turns up in big games so I couldn't drop him even if he has some quiet weeks. He'll be in there and firing when we play Wire and I can't wait for that one.

With the options we have in the pack I think we should rotate the players anyway and keep them fresh.

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I think he replaces Prescott, made a few errors tonight and gave away 2-3 penalties, cant see Madge being too happy with it, however he worked hard and took it in well

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



The only point I was worried last night was when Carmont took a knock and it looked like he might have injured a knee, he was looking in bad shape (he then ran it off, which was ridiculous, but that's typical Carmont!).

I dread to think what would happen if Carmont was injured. We'd lose probably the best centre in the comp at the moment but given our lack of cover in that position already we would be in a very weak position.

We should all pray for George to stay in good shape till the end of the season (he's more likely to re-sign if he's injury free too!).

Other than that worry, last night was superb stuff. If we continue playing at the level of the last two matches I am convinced we will win the SL and the cup. The challenge will be to keep this level of insenity up, all our players are firing now (except Deacs, who I'm sure will have sorted out his butter fingers by next week!).

Dave mentioned Mossop and Prescott - these lads are immense talents, different styles of play which compliment each other. Prescott just seems to do one thing, which is run straight and fast with a very strong leg drive and he can keep doing that for me until the end of his career. Mossop is a bit more of an elusive runner (did anyone else notice his footwork for his try?) but again very strong and keeps driving when tackled. Both are very strong in defence. Long term we can build a dominant pack around these two lads.

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Quote: bazdev "I think he replaces Prescott, made a few errors tonight and gave away 2-3 penalties, cant see Madge being too happy with it, however he worked hard and took it in well'"


i'd be really disappointed if prescott or mossop are replaced, they make such good yards and run the ball so hard, good young players who deserve to keep their spot in the team

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is there only me that thinks Fielden should not walk straight back into this team??? Coley made a couple of errors but his tackling was solid last night , he is very consistent for me. Also at Saints the previous week he was immense. Fielden needs to earn his place back, you cant drop one player after months of decent performances. No one has a right to the shirt and a starting place.

Prescott and Mossop were superb last night , our pack plays better than any pack in the league as a unit.

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where have all the doubters gone from about 10 games ago???, we ain't even hit top gear yet... i think wire peaked to soon, were still the team to beat

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I notice nobody has suggested Lima being replaced, I wonder why that is.

he was superb again last night and made more metres than any other forward, particularly in that first stint.

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He was ok going forward but immense in defence.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I notice nobody has suggested Lima being replaced, I wonder why that is.

he was superb again last night and made more metres than any other forward, particularly in that first stint.'"


Maybe it was just me but Lima didn't seem to get much game time in the second half. The only thing I could think of was that both Mossop and Prescott were putting in such good stints Madge didn't want to take either off before he had to.

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you were very good last night, we were simply outclassed in every department.
from our point of view we did nothing right at all and wigan did everything right.
just wish we could have got hold of tomkins to try and stop him!

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