I thought the challenges from saints in the air were far better than ours and saints team mates defended their full back better than us,

Saints fans used to say similar about Offiah back in the day.

All he can do his run….

RedVee TV really is a treat, the guy (Kevin) was a complete mess.

Look mate, I've no desire to fall out with you. You started your post with "I'll probably get shot down for this but .." (sic) and I shot you down. Surely you weren't taken by surprise? You say I'm getting my knickers in a twist for doing something you, yourself, expected to happen! How does that work?

Let me explain: I spend my hard earned to buy a season ticket and go to the games to support my team and enjoy the games. Unfortunately I have a 'resident moaner' sat just behind me who spends the whole game complaining. We could be winning 50 nil and he'd still find something to moan about. So when I see it on here too it boils my p!ss. This is the Challenge Cup thread. None of what you're criticising was relevant to that game. None of it happened. He didn't throw a bad pass or fail to sweep. The criticism was unnecessary.

As I say, I don't want to fall out so in the spirit of goodwill to all Wigan fans might I make a suggestion? I fully understand you have the right to have your say but could you perhaps do it on an appropriate thread? Maybe start your own if you like. But maybe leave the challenge cup one for those of us who want to celebrate or have comments relating to the actual game?

Cheers. And have a great weekend!

Be surprised if he could even remember 14 seconds of that match, beyond me why you'd pay good money to go to a game just to get absolutely bladdered before kick off

Leathered was the lad. I imagine he’s woke up this morning with the beer fear, hoping he did nowt daft and then he watches that! Ha ha.

He’s usually the more sensible one as well and even the other bloke seemed like he wondered what was going on.

We walked over the Steve Prescott bridge to Tesco back into St.Helens. We were just talking amongst ourselves, not even about the game. We had absolute cretins trying to goad us all the way back and quite a few of them standing blocking the paths giving it big guns singing 'interbred Wigan scum' in our face, with little kids with them as well. Horrible lot they are.

Wow! That's just embarrassing. It's the Saints equivalent of the infamous 'Wolfs' picture. I hope we bring that out regularly over the coming years



Highlights:

We could have Dwayne Chambers at full back and he'd be as good as Field. Castleford, anyone?

They had it won. They was still 20 minutes to play when they went ahead and we regained the lead after just 10 of them.

Why were they passing on the 3rd tackle! Hilarious!

Such a shame when it’s like that. I made a right mess up yesterday and had already bought tickets for Haydock races, so I watched it there. A Saints fan came sitting with us, we had a laugh and shook hands at the end. He said we deserved the win and was a really good bloke. It’s stuff like that which makes me proud of the sport and then experiences like yours that puts a real dampener on a good day out and there’s just no need for it.

We are absolutely 1000% better than last season performance wise. Last season we wouldn't have been anywhere near that result (I doubt we would have made it to the semi final either by the way).

Culturally we have made massive strides in such a short space of time, you can see it on the players faces.

By the way it's also notable that a couple of 'you know who' departees from last season have failed to either pass on their congratulations to the club or even mention our result on social media, that in itself speaks volumes.

We are a different club compared to Lam's era.
I actually can't wait for match day whereas with Lam I I dreaded the thought of a game.
Peet and his team have transformed the atmosphere of the whole club including players, staff and most importantly the fans.

I assume it's Hastings that you are referring to?

The good think about the likes of Smithies and Byrne, in particular, is that they’re still four or fives years off their peak.

Add Harvard to that and then the player who we haven’t seen the potential of yet; Silva, Nsebeba, hill and okeefe to name just a few.

A great game for the winners and neutral fans. Good to see a genuine fan take a defeat on the chin.
I think how aggressively we started in defence unsettled you guys and we took advantage of some unusually poor Saints defence.
Our next encounter with you guys should be a cracker.

What I dont get is before the game we would need luck on our side to even get close to them,we would be happy just to show spirit if we lose,we are so far behind Saints and Dragons that it was not worth turning up as we would get battered as the song goes,but hears the thing we bloody won we beat them even when none of our players could get in their team.
Love the thought of thousands of Saints fans waking up this morn and thinking it was a bad dream and suddenly it dawns on them and inside their minds a small explosion occurs WE LOST how did this happen please someone explain.
Enjoy the moment fellow Wiganers dont look to find fault in this side this week end as we are in the Challenge Cup final.
Does me off as well when people moan when you should just enjoy the moment.

As a Saints I take no notice of those we are never beaten by the better team (as we where yesterday) but because of refs ect

I've got mates who for the last three or four years fell away from being season ticket holders to little more than armchair supporters now actively interested in the team and club again. Of course plans are now in place to go to the final, with the prospect of taking in a few home league games at the back end of the season. Now whilst this is only one example in isolation I get the feeling that there is a bit of a buzz this season with supporters old and new due to our improved performances (2nd worst attack last season to best attack so far this season).

We have some big home games in the 2nd half of this season, be good to see some really good attendances that's been lacking since our return from the pandemic.

PS - He's one of two I'm thinking of yes.

Bar that mad 15 minutes our defence was much better than on GF, line speed was improved and we focussed on getting Walmsley, Knowles, Makinson and Percival on their backs to legally slow the PTB. On the Ref - odd that he didnt' go upstairs for the 2nd try, I think Makinson was onside but Welsby/Hurrell were in front an interfering with play.

Does anyone know the specifics of the offside rule - I.e. does a player need to be behind the ball, foot kicking the ball or the standing leg? With video ref decisions it seems to be if someone is more or less level then play on. Generally speaking I don't have an issue with that but maybe a different story when it's a big decision like the one on Sat.

Could completely understand Cade Cust's frustration with the ref for not even checking.

it felt like, after that, we didn't get a penalty all match........and we seemed to be getting 'caught offside' every five minutes

or was it purely co-incidental

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Funnily enough just after the game ref Ian Smith was asked his opinion on this exact shot on twitter, he stated that he would have given the try had he been the video referee.

Therein lies the problem, watch this at full speed and its quite obvious it's an offside.

Well He;s talking Boll0x as well

All 3 are off side - End of

They’d definitely give it. Offsides seems to get loads of leeway nowadays and unless it blatant, they won’t overturn it. They would’ve looked at the kicking foot and said that was in line with the chasers. They should’ve gone to the screen but it probably would’ve been pointless (rightly or wrongly).

I think the way RL judges offside is far better than VAR in football. There's no rulers and protractors out. It's a case of... Well he looks onside or he looks offside. Much better.

That being said, Saints were offside.

No surprise from Smith. They're all equally incompetent.