But it's our attack that is failing. And for that, the 6 & 7 need to be 'firing'. They are not.
Last night it was only when Sam moved up , probably in sheer frustration, that we really started to trouble 'saints'.

Our group were talking last night at the game about what we’d like to see changed when we have players back and the general opinion was to go with a 1,6 and 7 of Sarginson, Tomkins and Williams. He gets plenty on here as a centre but Sarginson has shown in the past that he is more then capable at fullback and I feel he suits our style of play in that position better then Escare does. The more the weeks roll by the more it looks like Escare is Just at the wrong club. Maybe things will turn for him under a new coach but I just don’t see us mixing things up to include him as more then a bit part whilst Wane is here.

In all honesty though it’ll only be injuries that’ll lead to any sort of shake up. It’s all very Brian Noble 2009 at the minute with a real stubbornness not to try anything different.

I’d go with that rather then our current set up but I wouldn’t rule Sarginson out at fullback. He turned our season around in 2016 when he went to fullback with the energy he brought to the side and he constantly got us on the front foot at the start of our sets. He was remembered for a great performance at Old Trafford but he’d been impressive in the months before that.

Either approach moves Powell out of seven, which simply has to happen as much for his sake as ours, so they both work for me. If we can find a spare wheelie bin to fill in for Tautai we may have cracked it!

Need fresh ideas now, just watched the Cas v Hudds game and Hudds played with the freedom and enjoyment we're all desperate for when a defeat for them could have put them in deep trouble regards to the middle 8's.
Their coach has worked wonders in just a few weeks.

Glad its not just me thinking the same about Escare,he simply isn't up to the required standard for whatever reason he simply looks out of his depth, time to move him on by next season I wonder?

I’d go like this for the run in when we get the short term injuries back


Sarginson
Davies
Hankinson
Gildart
Marshall/Manfredi
Williams
Tomkins
Flower
Leaulai
Clubb
Bateman
Greenwood
O’Loughlin

Isa
Powell
Naverette
Sutton

This gives us a running threat at 1, 6 and 7. Tomkins to do the long kicking.

Gildart was reportedly out for 6 to 8 weeks which would only give him 1 possibly 2 games befor semi finals.

Neat but not a chance of happening, Tomkins will always be FB - he may switch at times in games but will not start there.

In the system set up by Maguire and then by Wane Tomkins position suited the rigid structure, however as we all know this system is well past its used by date and he now needs to move to the halves. Otherwise, it's just the "same as" routine. I trust Sams vision and reflexes to spot the weakness in the oppositions defence and to make the right plays, I can't really say that about any other player.

I wouldn't disagree but he will not move to the halves except as a change during games - he will always start as a FB - we are crying out for some creativity and pace in the halves but moving Sam there will not happen - from reports both Wane and Sam are against it. In the second half against Saints it looked to me late on that Tommy was playing more as a 7 than Powell.

Irrelevant by the end of this season though.

the system isnt past it, its just there is far less pace in it and the passes in it are terrible, its still being used to very good effect in Aus

3000+ Wigan fans that no longer turn up as a result of it being used well after its sell by date would disagree.

May I ask which aussie teams are using it?

most, and all still use the full back run around that Madge brought in and we still use but it still works as they do it right in Aus.

Other than the Gildart issue, mentioned later, I certainly like the look of that. Assuming we hit a good run of form at the right time, we are certainly capable of going all the way.

Melbourne have been doing it more than ever this season with Billy Slater now that they have lost Cooper Cronk.

Adam O'Brien getting mentioned in Aussie press as a contender. He is assistant at Melbourne and credited with the improvement in Storms attack.

Quote ="Down by the Duggie"Adam O'Brien getting mentioned in Aussie press as a contender. He is assistant at Melbourne and credited with the improvement in Storms attack.'" Do u have a link mate? The last I read he was backed by Craig Bellamy to be their next coach. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/bellamy-bac ... -successor

Quote ="Down by the Duggie"Adam O'Brien getting mentioned in Aussie press as a contender. He is assistant at Melbourne and credited with the improvement in Storms attack.'" Do u have a link mate? The last I read he was backed by Craig Bellamy to be their next coach. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/bellamy-bac ... -successor

I like the team that NSW proposed. The problem for me is that Sam has been at his most effective this season operating at fullback. I know people will say he hasn't had much of a chance in the halves, but when he has been there he's not really done anything.

Yeah lets play Sam in the halves. Let's limit our best ball player and attacker to one side of the field only. Let's make him do twice as much tackling to boot.

Clear madness to think of moving Sam from fb.

Included in this article about Trent Barret https://www.sportingnews.com/au/amp/rug ... anly-sea-/

Included in this article about Trent Barret https://www.sportingnews.com/au/amp/rug ... anly-sea-/

I’m gonna put this in my diary mate, we finally agree on something!!

Haha! You secret love my posts buddy, I've always know this

Ha, you got me! I never start to shake my head when I’m ready your posts!!

Adam O’Brien would be a very good coach for us, I imagine he’d only be here a few years but Edwards could take over after