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All that rhetoric aside, what he seems to be saying is that you:



a) Have accused Wigan fans of crowing before the dawn, and have then gone on to do it yourself (in the same post).



b) Have accused Wigan fans of thinking that they've already won the treble, with no evidence to support this whatsoever.



c) Have scoffed at suggestions that Bluey has lost the changing room at Leeds, even though other Leeds fans are apparently concerned that he has.



These seem to be pretty specific charges. I'm not sure "laughing at 'em" is the best way to respond. Why not just give some answers?

Mate the lad is a lost cause, he is either a bit slow or a total hypocrite. My guess is he is a happy medium of both those conditions.

He posts more crap than anybody ive ever seen!

Yes, I really like Brown. I'd have him at Leeds personally. I also don't believe Eastmond is a 7. He's a ball running 6. There's not much in the halfs ATM though. We have a good 5 or 6.

Presumably after McGuire's defensive show last night you're at least having second thoughts about that selection?

Not at all. He's been very good in general over the past 2 years defensivley.



If you watched tonights game you will also have noticed we looked the most dangerous we have all season when he was at 7. As soon as Burrow came on we broke down again on too many occasions.



I started a thread on ss about McGuire being better than Burrow at 7 and our resident statto tvoc posted Leeds results with him there.



Anyway a basic breakdown is: P-22 W-19 D-1 L-2



not a bad rate is it.

Sorry, but after this last weekend, anyone trying to sell the world a Leeds half ahead of Sam Tomkins wants his head examining.



Catalan are no test at all.

Tompkins is a 6. Where have I said McGuire is a quality 6. My point was all about him playing much better at 7.

Hey this is a bit scary, but I think that's now two things Saints and Wigan fans can agree on (the other being which is the biggest and best derby in RL) - Tomkins and Eastmond MUST be the half-back pairing for England.



Can't wait to see them develop a partnership at international level and take on the Aussies and Kiwis. Two very exciting players with different styles and both still with their best rugby ahead of them.

Eastmond can't control a game yet, I'd prefer to see Myler ATM. Eastmond will be an awesome talent but as time stands he's still a very good prospect.

Yes, he can.

I just don't see anything in McGuire that isn't bettered by either Tomkins or Eastmond.



Neither of the Leeds halves would even be in the running for me, at present. They, and in fact the rest of the Leeds team, are operating well below the standards at the top of the table. Granted that may change in time, but a Leeds fan coming on a Wigan message board and shouting that his England halves would be McGuire and Brown is a bit laughable.

Are you kidding me? Myler hasn't had an outstanding performance all year for Wire and reading reports from Wire fans has failed to take control with Briers being injured. From what I've heard and get updates from my Saints friends who go every week report back that Eastmond has been one of the stand out performers for them in the majority of their games.