Spot on and i wonder how much Wane going had to do with Sam, Bateman and Sutton suddenly wanting out? Now Williams is off, makes you wonder, or it could just be very unfortunate timing but seems too much of a coincidence.

You can blame the boot in the face cost Wigan the game. Until then it looked like Wigan were getting the upper hand. It cost Wigan 8 points, margin of defeat....can you blame Lam for that.

I sense it was the other way round. Why did Wane walk away from the job he loves? My guess is he was informed of the cut in playing budget and that he was losing Tomkins on top of losing Micky Mac before the seasonand he knew Bateman would likely be off and he’d had enough.

I'd snap their hand off.

Its not an over reaction to say we're in real trouble. Who are we going to finish above?

Leeds!

Given Greenwood and Faz are out injured that team tonight with the possible exception of Sarginson was close our best first 17. I mean you could argue Budgie would replace Marshall but other than that, this is what we have. Dropping Davis was hardly controversial and neither was dropping Sammut. The fact that is basically it and we are paying to the cap is a joke.

The idea that IL has managed the cap well is nonsense. We have players out on loan all over the place who will never be good enough for SL. It's never mind the quality, feel the width.

IL has got rid of Mcillorum and Sam Tomkins and with the inevitable loss of Bateman that is three key players who have not been replaced with Hardaker not the same type as Tomkins. If I gave full vent to my feelings about Powell and his three year deal I'd have to ban myself.

Lam is on a hiding to nothing with this squad and unless something happens recruitment-wise Edwards won't be working any miracles either. But you can add to that Lam has never coached a first grade side. OK he was PNG coach for a bit but he lacks experience and by the sounds of it has hardly any backroom staff. His name came up as a permanent replacement for Wane when Wane resigned and I never understood the enthusiasm but as I said, I think with the squad he has, he's on a hiding to nothing anyway.

Another issue might be the players are so wedded to Wane that they can't or won't play another way or for another coach. Not good enough is so. That is just speculation though. The loss of key players and their replacements either not fitting in yet or just being downright poor is more a matter of fact.

Oh come off it. SL is in a race to the bottom, the standard is dire.

We won the whole bloody thing with this shambles last year.

We need a new coach immediately, Lam isn't up to the task, it's as simple as that.

Wigan need an experienced 2nd as urgency

Sammut wasn't dropped.

Win at Wire? I don't think so.

London.

Would Sandow and/or Barba with Savelio be welcome at Wigan?
I think your desperate for a back rower since losing Farrell and a spark of magic in the halves.

Why the panic? SL is so beige we’ll pick up wins, even with this rabble of championship players. We’ll finish mid-table. It didn’t kill wire the other year, it won’t kill us. IL won’t be overly worried.

We look like the 2006 team ... enough said!!!

he was, hes playing for Swinton on Sunday

Why don't we try dropping Williams he's played far far more games than Sammut and hasn't improved at all what harm can it do to give Sammut at run in the first team and maybe just maybe he might turn out a better option than lazy uninterested Williams!!

Didn’t have a great game (none of them did -again).

For me the issue is the forwards not laying a strong platform to get us into the opposition half to put any moves on.

Huddersfield (and Hull two weeks ago) were making strong yards from depth set after set, then putting a great kicking game in leaving us coming out of our own quarter 2-3 metres at a time. We would then put aimless ‘up in the air’ balls and it repeats again.

Huddersfield grabbers on the last gave them about 7 repeat sets from our drop outs, think we gained 1.

1. Forwards not making the yards.
2. Pi$$ poor kicking game on the last.
3. Awful passing yet again.

The last two matches Tautai has cost us four points, needs binning off. He’s a liability.

Given his lack of experience/coaching pedigree - would Adrian Lam have got the job if he hadn't previously played for Wigan?

Listen to these comments after the game. He openly admits he doesn't know what to do:



Frightening really.

I’m highly concerned about the conditioning setup at the club. Slow line speed, weak defence where we are making tackles but not controlling the ruck and poorly executed attacking shape have been a regular feature. We look tired after 10 minutes in most cases and then try to hang on. I think it’s fair to say we are at least hanging on in games so they aren’t blowouts, which means the players have some bottle about them but if they haven’t been prepared correctly there’s little hope for the season.

We are slow with line speed due to having to make 8-10 tackles a set. Both Hull and Hudds offloaded out of the tackle for fun. The extra tackles gassed us.

We have been fitter than the opposition for years and probably still are. Trouble is coaches now know how to take the energy out of us by offloads out of the tackle.

This part of defence needs sorting and quickly. Price and the Wire team will have watched that and would be daft not to do the same. If Wire produce as many off loads as Hudds I don't even want think what the score will be.

All that said, I wasn't too bothered about the 14 points it was us only scoring 6 against the leagues bottom club who hadn't won all season.

If we play in the next three matches like last night then we'll have a new coach long before Easter. As for Betts, he got Widnes to bottom of the League two seasons on the run and will have no problem doing the same with us.
We need a quality coach asap!

Exactly this. Lam is a proud guy.
He'll walk.

Exactly this. I would stick with Lam for this season and then get Shane Flanagan for 2020.

Are you Mrs Lam?

Pretty sure Lam’s whole family is staying in Sydney so that quip doesn’t really work.

Its going to be a long season!!