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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Jukesays "Massive Fail!
Added to the fact they need Biers on the pitch icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Wire_85 "He's not from Warrington anymore.
I wondered what that news report about pitchforks and burning haybales was about as Bentham drove away from the ground icon_smile.gif icon_wink.gif

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Smith only complains about the VR when his team loses due to the decisions.
When they win thanks to VR correct decisions he keeps quiet.
Well, there's a strage thing!

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Without the video ref we'd have lost that game on Saturday without question but all the decisions were just about right and what the video ref does is stop all the whining and moaning about refs from the coaches after games.

We don't want to end up like football and having every coach coming out and blaming the referee when they lose.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "Without the video ref we'd have lost that game on Saturday without question but all the decisions were just about right and what the video ref does is stop all the whining and moaning about refs from the coaches after games.

We don't want to end up like football and having every coach coming out and blaming the referee when they lose.'"


*Cough* Martinez *Cough*

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Was that intentional?? icon_wink.gif

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TBH i thought smith had more class than this to go crying about something when his team loses. Would he have said this if Warrington had won? Would he hell. Gone down in my estimations, hes almost as bad as Millward!

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Literally the first time i've heard him say anything about a ref yesterday. He normally just says he's happy even when we lost 4-0, 5-0 or even 9-1 icon_eek.gif

I was thinking more along the lines of Wenger, Benitez,Ferguson, Bruce, Allardyce etc etc.

It gets boring after they've blamed the ref for the 457th time.

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Smith is a critic of the VR in general. He's mentioned this several times in the past. I agree every time and always prefer Sunday afternoon games where you get a decision there and then.

Saying that, Bentham's calls were all spot on Saturday.

Smith isn't moaning as it cost us the game - he seems to feel it disrupts the pace of the game in general.

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Quote: The One That Got Away "Smith is a critic of the VR in general. He's mentioned this several times in the past. '"


Smith tells lots of lies, dont believe him. Look at the size of his nose!

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Their is alot of dislike for each other.But i do not blame you as warrington have caused trouble in widnes over the years.In the 80s their was fights in old cow sheds and used to spill onto the pitch.I was a young lad then.Even when they played at stobarts they smashed one of our pubs and we are in a different league.I must admit i am glad wigan beat the wire. a026.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Batesy "rlhttp://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wolves/wolvesnews/5021216.Smith_blasts_video_referees/?ref

I thought all the decisions where the right ones. I thought King tackling Gleeson was 50/50 to be honest, King sort of sheparded Glees into that position, when Glees was only supporting Roberts (as would be expected) Solomona's decision was bang on, he clearly dropped it, and Solomona also definatly knocked on to rule out Briers(??) effort.

Still, take it away Tony.'"



To be fair, you can hardly class this as sour grapes given the fact that Tony Smith has openly expressed his opinion of video refereeing long before Saturday's match. Plus, its not as though he's commented on a particular decision; just the concept as a whole.

He was also dignified enough to praise Wigan as winners of the match.

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Quote: Wire_85 "Wigan were holding down in the first half alot I don't think they could live with the pace we wanted to play at IMO.'"


If it was at the DW Stadium you wouldnt of got as many decisions go your way as they did on Saturday night. We could live with the pace you had far more possession in the first half and we werent helped by 50/50 decisions that most of the time went your way.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Their is alot of dislike for each other.But i do not blame you as warrington have caused trouble in widnes over the years.In the 80s their was fights in old cow sheds and used to spill onto the pitch.I was a young lad then.Even when they played at stobarts they smashed one of our pubs and we are in a different league.I must admit i am glad wigan beat the wire.
A little off topic are we?

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Quote: Wire_85 "He's not said he thinks the decisions are wrong has he? he's said he doesn't like VR's which he has stated before.'"


It's typical local paper journalism. There is no direct quote from Smith saying the decisions were wrong and this quote about Solomona's attempt says it all:

"“David was distraught, he was saying sorry to his mates and the coaches but he will score plenty this year and was within inches or centimetres of winning the game"

That is the player knew he dropped the ball and it wasn't a try.

Dave

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