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| Quote jonh="jonh"Quite ironic it was the type of game where Clubb would have been useful.
Whilst he may offer very little what he does bring is the ability to get in the opposition and disrupt them.
At the moment he’s the only prop we have that doesn’t get bullied for the 10 minutes he is in the pitch.
We needed someone to disrupt the Hull lads today, relying on young lads to do that simply isn’t going to happen.
We need a Scott Logan type signing. A grafter with size and a bit of dog in him.
After a great start to his Wigan career Singleton has been poor so far in 21.'"
Do you think we could sign a rag tag bunch of props from SL and they'd improve us?
I genuinely think that we've got one of the worst middles in the league.
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| Singleton has been a shadow of his 2020 self so far this season not sure what’s going on with him
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| Singleton's former self was his current self IMO - average-to-okay at best. He was 4th/5th choice prop at Leeds and now he's our number 1 prop? It's very confusing.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"Do you think we could sign a rag tag bunch of props from SL and they'd improve us?
I genuinely think that we've got one of the worst middles in the league.'"
I think if you swap out props for most other teams props we do the double.
Watching the Cas v Salford semi and I’d take all 4 Cas props at Wigan.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Singleton's former self was his current self IMO - average-to-okay at best. He was 4th/5th choice prop at Leeds and now he's our number 1 prop? It's very confusing.'"
That’s just not true though is it?
He was a regular in a team that was winning trophies.
He had a fall out with David Furner and was basically told he had no future at Leeds because of it.
He’s a quality player but he really is struggling this year no doubt.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I think if you swap out props for most other teams props we do the double.
Watching the Cas v Salford semi and I’d take all 4 Cas props at Wigan.'"
I agree and it's equally frustrating and an opportunity.
I've said a few times that we won't find a group like Saints have, but we don't need that. A couple of journeymen would massively improve us.
Surely there's room in the cap to bring in a couple of those player's?
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| For me the problem isn’t Havard/Partington/Shorrocks/Bryne. They are the cream of the prop in terms of 20/21 year old props/middles.
The problem in our squad is our experienced props
Bullock 28 years old people rave about him because he makes the odd good carry. Can’t defend, can’t play poor than 15 mins, crap.
Singleton 28 year old, great last year but awful this year. A Leeds reject shouldn’t be our first choice.
Clubb 33 year old, I don’t need to spell it out.
Mitch Clark 28 year old, signed on good money can’t even get a game.
If these were performing we’d be fine. Bag these not the young lads.
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| Quote NSW="NSW"For me the problem isn’t Havard/Partington/Shorrocks/Bryne. They are the cream of the prop in terms of 20/21 year old props/middles.
The problem in our squad is our experienced props
Bullock 28 years old people rave about him because he makes the odd good carry. Can’t defend, can’t play poor than 15 mins, crap.
Singleton 28 year old, great last year but awful this year. A Leeds reject shouldn’t be our first choice.
Clubb 33 year old, I don’t need to spell it out.
Mitch Clark 28 year old, signed on good money can’t even get a game.
If these were performing we’d be fine. Bag these not the young lads.'"
Completely agree.
It’s not the young lads fault they are all bring blooded at the same time.
If we keep them together they will be a great set in 3/4 years time.
Our older heads at the moment are damaging the squad when it should be us relying on them and rotating the youngsters not the other way round.
There has been some serious mismanagement and planning when looking at Props.
Add to the fact it was common knowledge Burgess was broken when we signed him it’s been a really poor performance by the club.
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| Quote NSW="NSW"For me the problem isn’t Havard/Partington/Shorrocks/Bryne. They are the cream of the prop in terms of 20/21 year old props/middles.
The problem in our squad is our experienced props
Bullock 28 years old people rave about him because he makes the odd good carry. Can’t defend, can’t play poor than 15 mins, crap.
Singleton 28 year old, great last year but awful this year. A Leeds reject shouldn’t be our first choice.
Clubb 33 year old, I don’t need to spell it out.
Mitch Clark 28 year old, signed on good money can’t even get a game.
If these were performing we’d be fine. Bag these not the young lads.'"
100% correct
I’m unfair to mention Havard being away from his best. Why shouldn’t a kid be allowed to suffer a bit of second season syndrome? They’re all being over exposed and it’ll hurt them long term.
I’ve said many times that I won’t bag the club if we don’t sign anybody else given the current climate and I won’t but don’t sign at least one prop this season and it’s game over in terms of winning anything.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"100% correct
I’m unfair to mention Havard being away from his best. Why shouldn’t a kid be allowed to suffer a bit of second season syndrome? They’re all being over exposed and it’ll hurt them long term.
I’ve said many times that I won’t bag the club if we don’t sign anybody else given the current climate and I won’t but don’t sign at least one prop this season and it’s game over in terms of winning anything.'"
If we get an Indian Summer in October we stand a chance.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"If we get an Indian Summer in October we stand a chance.'"
Possibly but I watch Saints and my lord they’re boring to watch but their line speed is brilliant in defence and they’ll stick with us fitness wise, so when you put Walmsley and Paasi up against our junior front row, we’ve hardly got a prayer.
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