where was richards and carmont? that was our left pairing....carmont wasnt left centre for 3 games the entire season, Tomkins played right centre most of the season due to the sacking of Gleeson, Marsh played centre 6 times and his winger scored twice in them games, Roberts played left wing once all year and twice on the right, when richards came back from injury after the first 8 games he didnt miss a game, so its a bigger issue than you think, the 2010 team was far better than the 2011 also...

Don't remember Coslett, but I equate him to Eric Hughes or maybe even as bad as Andy Goodway.

Coslett a couple of years before my time. I came in under Bamford, a poorer team still recovering from relegation but a sprinkle of half decent signings were made and led the way to some success under Murphy.

We've been lucky over the years. We've only had a small number of below average to average coaches that I can think of.


Millward
Hughes
Dorahay
Goodway
Betts
Lam

No post match interview from Lam?

He looks like a coach who knows his time is up and it’s a case of when not if.

If we fail to respond against Saints next week I think he will go especially if Saints put 20+ on us.

It’s sad to see.

I cannot see what Thornley will bring to your team. Was very surprised when his signing was announced.

Kel Coslett introduced himself to the Wigan players in their first training session (and subsequently to the press, when various players rang the newspapers afterwards) by telling them he didn't even want the job and was only at Central Park until a vacancy appeared at St Helens.

Lam may not be much of a coach, but I think we can safely say that in terms of professionalism, he is streets ahead of that.

I don't really get the complaints about our outside backs. Were it not for some excellent finishing last night from Marshall and Bobby, the score-line would have looked even bleaker..And Miski looks like he culd be useful.The proposed back five would hardly be that awful, but I too would worry about Smith and Field in the halves. Field is still an unknown quantity with limited first-grade experience, and Smith, well, he just makes too many errors/takes too many wrong options for me.

There was am interview on Sky with Lam, and also one on Wigan tv.

The Sky one wasn't shown post match due to time restraints.

If ever there was a moment for management to replace his coach it's this one: https://twitter.com/WiganWarriorsRL/sta ... 30597?s=19 "We are trying to be a top four team" How far we've fallen.

If ever there was a moment for management to replace his coach it's this one: https://twitter.com/WiganWarriorsRL/sta ... 30597?s=19 "We are trying to be a top four team" How far we've fallen.

It's not been announced yet. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I would have expected it to be announced by now if Lam was staying, they must know if they want him or not. The danger is, if they have decided he's going and they announce that, it undermines him for the rest of this season and probably does more harm than good.

IL isn't really the kind to sack a manager, to me it looks like trying to steady the ship and not create distraction at this point in the season, when in theory we are still well in with a chance mathematically.

It could be another month or so before we hear one way or the other.

IIRC we didn't know Noble was going until he announced it straight after the last game. I could see the same happening with Lam where he knows but it's kept private till we are out.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking. Wouldn't surprise me if they've gone down the NRL number 2 route again

Not sure about that. Lenegan usually goes out there and does those kind of deals himself and if he had been out of the country im sure we would have heard about it. It'l be Matty Peet. It's so underwhelming to think that might happen. Hope to god i am wrong though. If that was the choice then i'd rather have Danny Ward but even then it says to me that mediocrity will be the new norm.