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| Bateman for the 13 shirt Sam for captain and then Bateman once sam retires
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Aye, you and me both Jimmy! It was a lonely furrow at times circa 2006, especially on t'other site! ![]() ![Razz icon_razz.gif](images/smilies//icon_razz.gif)
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| Quote: suffolk rhinos "The same feeling we had for sir Kev, underrated by some other fans but the glue that held Leeds together, a great leader and ambassador for the club and the sport and much missed, no coincidence that we fell apart last season after he retired, Lockers, class act, two of the best 13 s and leaders our clubs have ever seen'"
Sinfield was undoubtedly important to Leeds as Lockers is to Wigan but the difference is Sinfield was never an international class player whereas Lockers was and is. Sinfield never looked comfortable playing international RL, Lockers has always looked even better than he has done playing for Wigan. It's a pity Lockers has missed quite a few internationals due to injury.
I never want to see class players like Lockers leave SL for the NRL but I reckon if he had fancied it (which he clearly did not) he'd have been a mega star in Oz.
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| Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "I recall he was always your favourite player and you would put me right when i said something wrong about him, those where the days back on Mikes site
Haha. Many a good argument back then Meds! To be fair you did see sense in the end although you still can't resist a dig whenever you get chance. I think his quality is self evident to even the blindest fan these days even if it's taken a lot longer than it should! I looked at Redvee the other night and the praise for Lockers was unreserved (which I thought showed a lot of class in defeat from some of their posters) and if even our dearest rivals can see it...
God help us when he retires though!
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Haha. Many a good argument back then Meds! To be fair you did see sense in the end although you still can't resist a dig whenever you get chance. ![]()
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| I may be going mad but I see a certain element of Lockers when I see Ward play.
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| Samy Kibula has some similar elements to his game too. He's still very young but he runs it in hard, passes from within the defensive line and has a great offloading game. Needs to build his fitness up and perhaps add a long passing game if possible but has great potential.
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| Firstly on Lockers as a player absolute legend and Mr Wigan. He may not be the most naturally talented player I have ever seen in a Wigan shirt, although he clearly does have bags of talent, but he just puts it in week in week out on the field and in training too I would imagine. He has suffered a near career ending injury, which in truth took him fully 2 years to recover from but he never lost confidence in the face of a fair bit of flack at the time from the stands.
What impresses me most about him is his willingness and ability to adapt as a player, constantly evolving his game as he has physically developed and aged hence why he is such a rounded player. Passing like a half, running like a prop offloading like a centre and leading by example week in week out.
Replacing him is probably going to have to see us change in style. I can't think of any 13 anywhere that brings what he does and the complete skill set he has to the table that is realistically available anyway.
We may go down the line of bringing in a Prop or using Flower in that role, as seems to be the trend these days. Internally I would say Joel is the most likely replacement given his recent foray into the frontrow.
I know it is very very early days but the young kid, Hanley, looks like a player mounded after his dad. Strong dynamic runner eye for the line and very comfortable in the 13 shirt when Locky retires he will be 17/18 and IF he develops could be knocking on the first team door by then with a bit of luck and hard work. Like his dad however he looks like a player who could play in any of the strike positions and I would think if he gets to first team level it will initially be as a back.
I'm sure the coaches are looking at a succession plan both long and short term, either way though I wouldn't fancy their job as it will be one hell of a hole to fill when he does hang up his boots.
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| The only player in the current set up who looks remotely similar to O'Loughlin is Nick Gregson. However he's had so many injuries in his short career I think it would be very difficult for him to "come to the rescue"
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The only player in the current set up who looks remotely similar to O'Loughlin is Nick Gregson. However he's had so many injuries in his short career I think it would be very difficult for him to "come to the rescue"'"
Spot on. Forget replacing Lockers with a like for like player we need to change our style.
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| We do have options but a change of style would be needed as O'Loughlin can play any role required of him.
A tackling loose forward who has a good engine - Willie Isa
A tackling loose forward who can break through the line - John Bateman
A ball playing loose forward who can read the game, spot a gap and go through it and is a decent tackler - Sam Tomkins
My preferred option would be Sam Tomkins to loose forward and Morgan Escaré to full back.
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| Quote: Arthur Warrior "We do have options but a change of style would be needed as O'Loughlin can play any role required of him.
A tackling loose forward who has a good engine - Willie Isa
A tackling loose forward who can break through the line - John Bateman
A ball playing loose forward who can read the game, spot a gap and go through it and is a decent tackler - Sam Tomkins
My preferred option would be Sam Tomkins to loose forward and Morgan Escaré to full back.'"
Very different form most peoples ideas I would think but very thought provoking.
My main concern would be that Bateman and Farrell are both comparatively quite small and adding ST to the backrow may be a step too far in that we would undoubtedly be the smallest backrow in the competition.
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| Sam Tomkins at loose forward is just bonkers IMO. You can't be giving a size advantage like that away with Sam playing at 13 against sides of props at loose forward and hope that his skills see that size differential off.
I could understand the club signing a replacement like Liam Sutcliffe as he has a frame that could be bulked up but I just can't see that with Sam. As things stand there isn't a like for like replacement so you either try and manufacture one or you change your style of play to suit the options at 13 you do have.
If Greg Bird wasn't such a lunatic and Catalans went down he wouldn't be a bad shout but he comes with too much baggage. I don't think he's quite like for like but he's as close as you'd find. He's no spring chicken himself though.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Very different form most peoples ideas I would think but very thought provoking.
My main concern would be that Bateman and Farrell are both comparatively quite small and adding ST to the backrow may be a step too far in that we would undoubtedly be the smallest backrow in the competition.'"
I think George Williams will end up as Lockers replacement with Tomkins at 6 and Escare at 1. Williams defensively is excellent and is growing into his frame a similar way Lockers did.
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| I could imagine Joel going to 13.
Big, skillful and aggressive.
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