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Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper.
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The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "I'm not 100% sure Burgess needs a rest. Being a winger is arguably the easiest position to start off your career at. He's a young athletic lad so I don't think there are any issues there. He's just got to be managed correctly when he eventually has a bad game. It's going to happen at one point this season and when it does Wane has to ensure his confidence isnt smashed.
Bateman on the other hand needs a different approach. It stands to reason that if we keep playing him week in week out then it's simply a case of not if but when he'll get injured. Let's not forget he's a player who has been badly let down by his former employers and by the statments made when we signed him Wigan know they need to tread carefully.
The only issue with Bateman is there's not a huge list of talented guys behind him. Its another issue that would have been easily avoided had we not let HH leave.'"
HH has gone!!!! Why did no one mention this!!??!! |
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "HH has gone!!!! Why did no one mention this!!??!!'"
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I think Shaun being left with no other option than to play Bateman. I think somebody needs to have a word with Jack Hughes or he needs a mentor, this is truly his big opportunity to nail down a first team spot and lack of concentration is stopping him doing it. He has clearly shown enough ability to do it but he needs to become consistent.
Still would like to see gelling get a run of 3 games at 2nd row, when he has a good game he gets dropped the following week.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Both look absolutely tremendous prospects. Love the look of bateman (and did whilst at the bulls, glad he got rid of that sh+tty haircut though!!) He fits the overaggresive chav tag perfectly as a wigan player ![]()
Ha ha. I've got to be honest he strikes me as thick as two short planks off the field but on it he seems to have the calmness and game awareness of a veteran. He's nothing like as big as Hock but his natural ability reminds me of our last great chav second row only this kid has a great rugby brain. That rugby brain is what makes up for his lack of size and is what will make him go on and become a top international player IMO.
If we keep the lad long term he's looking like a natural successor to Sean O'Loughlin as Wigan skipper.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "If we keep the lad long term he's looking like a natural successor to Sean O'Loughlin as Wigan skipper.'"
Not something I'd like to see, potential to be a great player, but his opinions and beliefs leave a little to be desired. |
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| Quote: dubairl "I think Shaun being left with no other option than to play Bateman. I think somebody needs to have a word with Jack Hughes or he needs a mentor, this is truly his big opportunity to nail down a first team spot and lack of concentration is stopping him doing it. He has clearly shown enough ability to do it but he needs to become consistent.
Still would like to see gelling get a run of 3 games at 2nd row, when he has a good game he gets dropped the following week.'"
Hughes has been the biggest disappointment of the season so far for me especially these past two weeks. As you say this was his time, his big chance to finally nail down a second row spot and he's been borderline woeful IMO. He has a lot of natural ability but concentration is definitely an issue as is a bit of complacency IMO. He seems to just drift through games at points and looks happy to enjoy the good times without really putting the hard graft in that sits behind that success.
I really rate him when his head is right but he strikes me as a lad that may at some point need to leave Wigan to wake him up and make him realise he should have put more in to it all. |
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| Quote: Barnesy "Not something I'd like to see, potential to be a great player, but his opinions and beliefs leave a little to be desired.'"
I'm going purely off his on field game sense, attitude and ability to lead by example. His off the field beliefs are something I heard a rumour about during his Bradford days but I'd like to think he was being young and daft and will grow up and mature.
I do believe a captain needs to be an all round ambassador for the club like Lockers is so I take your point. |
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Everyone is young once, and, as you say, let's hope he's matured.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Hughes has been the biggest disappointment of the season so far for me especially these past two weeks. As you say this was his time, his big chance to finally nail down a second row spot and he's been borderline woeful IMO. He has a lot of natural ability but concentration is definitely an issue as is a bit of complacency IMO. He seems to just drift through games at points and looks happy to enjoy the good times without really putting the hard graft in that sits behind that success.
I really rate him when his head is right but he strikes me as a lad that may at some point need to leave Wigan to wake him up and make him realise he should have put more in to it all.'"
Exactly my thoughts. That's why I believe we should be looking at using Flower in the second row now that Clubb has moved to front row. |
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The question on here should be - does Phil Clarke have any more nephews like budgie?
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We should give gelling a shot at 2nd row from the bench given hughes isnt doing very well
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| Quote: Mash Butty "The question on here should be - does Phil Clarke have any more nephews like budgie?'"
I'm not sure he's a member so why is it a question for here? |
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| Quote: Tricky Dicky "We should give gelling a shot at 2nd row from the bench given hughes isnt doing very well'"
Certainly worth a go at this point. JH hasn't done anything to cement his place in the team. |
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Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery.......
I will look to the moment, and miraculously, the future will take care of itself.
Radio 5 Live, Sat, April 14th, 2007,...Dave Whelan, "In Wigan, rugby will always be king"
'I was certain, positive, convinced, and yet..........unsure'
'It's only rock 'n' roll, but I like it'
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Both look absolutely tremendous prospects. Love the look of bateman (and did whilst at the bulls, glad he got rid of that sh+tty haircut though!!) He fits the overaggresive chav tag perfectly as a wigan player ![]()
How a Saints fan can mention any hairstyle after some of the 'efforts' of Jamie Foster is pure cheek !!! 
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I've got to be honest he strikes me as thick as two short planks off the field
If we keep the lad long term he's looking like a natural successor to Sean O'Loughlin as Wigan skipper.'"
Plenty of ammo for our rival fans there. |
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