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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| If this event does not get 45,000 on both days then the RFL should just drop it.
We need the likes of Wigan, Warrington, St Helens and Leeds to take as many fans as possible with them being 4 of our biggest clubs and all being pretty close to Manchester. Hopefully Salford will pack out a section but I can't see it.
Finally, use common sense and sell-out the bottom two tiers before opening the top tier.
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| Quote: talulah "The fact it's local (well closer anyway - local for me) may mean some people will leave after their team's match, but then there may be more people there in the first place, so those effects may cancel out. I guess the only way to find out is to try it, which is exactly what they're doing. No surprise that plenty in our RL "community" are having a good old moan about it
I'm just wondering if Des Drummond has still got his pub in Moss Side. Flak jackets optional.
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| Quote: Robbo "
Why does it being local have any bearing on whether you want to watch a particular match before or after the Wigan game?'"
At Cardiff I'm a captive audience. I've made a big effort to go so I want my moneysworth. In Manchester I won't care & the partner certainly won't stand for 'oh there nothing better to do and we've come all this way'.
Each to their own
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9237_1268138108.gif [quote="Saddened!":2s3i877q]In all seriousness I think Sam Tomkins will disappear. The real star is his better looking back row brother.[/quote:2s3i877q]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":2s3i877q]Sam Tomkins is just mere hype hiding behind a good team. Danny McGuire is the real deal.[/quote:2s3i877q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9237.gif |
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| Quote: Teessidewire "I'm just wondering if Des Drummond has still got his pub in Moss Side. Flak jackets optional.'"
Don't know. Moss Side is a long way from Clayton though, so I don't think many will be walking that route!
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| Quote: MattyB "The whole reason for the weekend was to spread the game, now its at Manchester it's time to scrap it as it leaves an unfair outlook on the fixture list. Wigan play Saints three times whilst Wire usually draw Hudds/Salford and the current champions Leeds play the duffers from Bradford.'"
That may have been the idea for the first couple of years, but I think it's an opportunity for the game to make some money.
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| Quote: Robbo "I still don't think the fixtures are fair. But the fact that the rfl have taken note that not everyone is willing/able to travel and spend a fortune going to Cardiff/Edinburgh for a league game and moved it a bit closer to home is atleast an improvement.'"
Swings and roundabouts - My opinion is totally opposite of yours. Since the Magic Weekends' concept started I have been for the full weekend every year and always had a great time. I don't want to spend the weekend in Manchester, 20 mins from my house. I think the scheduling has been poor too to put this on a non bank holiday weekend; putting people off further staying for the weekend IMO.
Quote: Robbo "The whole reason for the weekend was to spread the game, now its at Manchester it's time to scrap it as it leaves an unfair outlook on the fixture list. Wigan play Saints three times whilst Wire usually draw Hudds/Salford and the current champions Leeds play the duffers from Bradford.'"
Hammer, Nail, Hit Matthew!!!!
The concept was always to take SL and indeed RL on the road but being smack bang in the heartlands seems a bit silly tbh.
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| Quote: -Tracie- "Swings and roundabouts - My opinion is totally opposite of yours. Since the Magic Weekends' concept started I have been for the full weekend every year and always had a great time. I don't want to spend the weekend in Manchester, 20 mins from my house. I think the scheduling has been poor too to put this on a non bank holiday weekend; putting people off further staying for the weekend IMO.'"
I thought it was going to be on the extended bank hol for the jubilee? Fair enough it's not as good for a weekend away but enough was enough with regards to huge half-empty stadia.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: -Tracie- "Swings and roundabouts - My opinion is totally opposite of yours. Since the Magic Weekends' concept started I have been for the full weekend every year and always had a great time. I don't want to spend the weekend in Manchester, 20 mins from my house. I think the scheduling has been poor too to put this on a non bank holiday weekend; putting people off further staying for the weekend IMO.
Hammer, Nail, Hit Matthew!!!!
The concept was always to take SL and indeed RL on the road but being smack bang in the heartlands seems a bit silly tbh.'"
I don't see it that way. It is in Manchester, not a RL area. If we can strengthen the game and the awareness of it in a place like Manchester then it would be a huge bonus.
Expansion does not have to be a 4 hour drive.
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| .......Have you considered Manchester to an outsider may be seen as the M62 Corridor?
Scraping the barrel if you think Manchester is expansion, no really
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| Hopefully numbers of tickets sold will increase with it being nearer to home for most RL fans. There obviously will be some who will go for their club's match and go. The RFL and SL as organisers just have to provide incentive for people to stick around even if they are not sitting inside the stadium for all games. Creating an RL village outside the ground to create more of a festival type event would surely help. Didn't they have local amateur sides playing extra games on training pitches at Murrayfield? Sure I remember seeing a feature on that on the SLS. Maybe a nines tournament or a touch rugby tournament. Like Wigan do for the community day each season. Give people something to stick around for and make RL's presence obvious to people passing by.
Holding it in Manchester also means it will be practically on the doorstep of the BBC sport department. If ever there was a chance to showcase the sport to them then this would be it. OK so they can't show live games from the event but it being at such close proximity to them means that they can be shown the ins and outs of the event, can be introduced to local pro, semi-pro and amateur clubs in the build up to the event and can actually be encouraged to produce plenty of preview material without them having to go to too much effort to get to the clubs or players involved. We could also show the BBC (and be able to talk up) a well attended showcase event for our sport. This could be used to improve RL's reputation and the working relationship between the RFL and BBC and to get us taken much more seriously in future.
Or we could all just whinge about not being able to stay in a hotel in a different part of the country.
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| I'm in the camp which says scrap it. The idea was to spread the gospel of RL and it doesn't seem to have worked. We tried it mid season and tried it as an opener at locations aimed at new audiences. Now we're in Manchester? It should have been north east for me? Maybe Newcastle and invite a Cumbrian side in some way.
The fixtures are seriously unfair but without the Wigan v saints game there would be less attraction to neutrals.
Scrap it!!!
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| any idea of dates for this anybody?
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| The extra bank holiday at the start of June. 2nd and 3rd I think.
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| Good move by the RFL. The Millennium Stadium was just full of Northerners anyway. Cardiff is bloody difficult to get to (and away from!), even if it is a beautiful city.
It makes much more sense to hold it in Manchester.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: east stander ".......Have you considered Manchester to an outsider may be seen as the M62 Corridor?
Scraping the barrel if you think Manchester is expansion, no really'"
At the end of the day Cardiff and Murrayfield were mostly full of normal RL fans anyway. Bring it closer to home while getting more fans in AND expand into a city which does not see much RL. Of course Manchester is expansion, we are taking the game to a place where it is not seen as a big sport.
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