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| If this event does not get 45,000 on both days then the RFL should just drop it.
We need the likes of Wigan, Warrington, St Helens and Leeds to take as many fans as possible with them being 4 of our biggest clubs and all being pretty close to Manchester. Hopefully Salford will pack out a section but I can't see it.
Finally, use common sense and sell-out the bottom two tiers before opening the top tier.
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| Quote ="talulah"The fact it's local (well closer anyway - local for me) may mean some people will leave after their team's match, but then there may be more people there in the first place, so those effects may cancel out. I guess the only way to find out is to try it, which is exactly what they're doing. No surprise that plenty in our RL "community" are having a good old moan about it
The only issue I can see is that even though it's in the best stadium in the world (as far as I'm concerned) there isn't the range of pubs around like there is in Cardiff. There's Mary D's (for the brave), the new Summerbee outside bar, and the bars in the stadium, and that's pretty much it. It's a fair old walk into town. Maybe that'll mean everyone's closer together and there'll be a better atmosphere though, we'll see.'"
I'm just wondering if Des Drummond has still got his pub in Moss Side. Flak jackets optional.
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| Quote ="Robbo"
Why does it being local have any bearing on whether you want to watch a particular match before or after the Wigan game?'"
At Cardiff I'm a captive audience. I've made a big effort to go so I want my moneysworth. In Manchester I won't care & the partner certainly won't stand for 'oh there nothing better to do and we've come all this way'.
Each to their own
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"I'm just wondering if Des Drummond has still got his pub in Moss Side. Flak jackets optional.'"
Don't know. Moss Side is a long way from Clayton though, so I don't think many will be walking that route!
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| Quote ="MattyB"The whole reason for the weekend was to spread the game, now its at Manchester it's time to scrap it as it leaves an unfair outlook on the fixture list. Wigan play Saints three times whilst Wire usually draw Hudds/Salford and the current champions Leeds play the duffers from Bradford.'"
That may have been the idea for the first couple of years, but I think it's an opportunity for the game to make some money.
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| Quote ="Robbo"I still don't think the fixtures are fair. But the fact that the rfl have taken note that not everyone is willing/able to travel and spend a fortune going to Cardiff/Edinburgh for a league game and moved it a bit closer to home is atleast an improvement.'"
Swings and roundabouts - My opinion is totally opposite of yours. Since the Magic Weekends' concept started I have been for the full weekend every year and always had a great time. I don't want to spend the weekend in Manchester, 20 mins from my house. I think the scheduling has been poor too to put this on a non bank holiday weekend; putting people off further staying for the weekend IMO.
Quote ="MattyB"The whole reason for the weekend was to spread the game, now its at Manchester it's time to scrap it as it leaves an unfair outlook on the fixture list. Wigan play Saints three times whilst Wire usually draw Hudds/Salford and the current champions Leeds play the duffers from Bradford.'"
Hammer, Nail, Hit Matthew!!!!
The concept was always to take SL and indeed RL on the road but being smack bang in the heartlands seems a bit silly tbh.
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| Quote ="-Tracie-"Swings and roundabouts - My opinion is totally opposite of yours. Since the Magic Weekends' concept started I have been for the full weekend every year and always had a great time. I don't want to spend the weekend in Manchester, 20 mins from my house. I think the scheduling has been poor too to put this on a non bank holiday weekend; putting people off further staying for the weekend IMO.'"
I thought it was going to be on the extended bank hol for the jubilee? Fair enough it's not as good for a weekend away but enough was enough with regards to huge half-empty stadia.
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| Quote ="-Tracie-"Swings and roundabouts - My opinion is totally opposite of yours. Since the Magic Weekends' concept started I have been for the full weekend every year and always had a great time. I don't want to spend the weekend in Manchester, 20 mins from my house. I think the scheduling has been poor too to put this on a non bank holiday weekend; putting people off further staying for the weekend IMO.
Hammer, Nail, Hit Matthew!!!!
The concept was always to take SL and indeed RL on the road but being smack bang in the heartlands seems a bit silly tbh.'"
I don't see it that way. It is in Manchester, not a RL area. If we can strengthen the game and the awareness of it in a place like Manchester then it would be a huge bonus.
Expansion does not have to be a 4 hour drive.
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| .......Have you considered Manchester to an outsider may be seen as the M62 Corridor?
Scraping the barrel if you think Manchester is expansion, no really
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| Hopefully numbers of tickets sold will increase with it being nearer to home for most RL fans. There obviously will be some who will go for their club's match and go. The RFL and SL as organisers just have to provide incentive for people to stick around even if they are not sitting inside the stadium for all games. Creating an RL village outside the ground to create more of a festival type event would surely help. Didn't they have local amateur sides playing extra games on training pitches at Murrayfield? Sure I remember seeing a feature on that on the SLS. Maybe a nines tournament or a touch rugby tournament. Like Wigan do for the community day each season. Give people something to stick around for and make RL's presence obvious to people passing by.
Holding it in Manchester also means it will be practically on the doorstep of the BBC sport department. If ever there was a chance to showcase the sport to them then this would be it. OK so they can't show live games from the event but it being at such close proximity to them means that they can be shown the ins and outs of the event, can be introduced to local pro, semi-pro and amateur clubs in the build up to the event and can actually be encouraged to produce plenty of preview material without them having to go to too much effort to get to the clubs or players involved. We could also show the BBC (and be able to talk up) a well attended showcase event for our sport. This could be used to improve RL's reputation and the working relationship between the RFL and BBC and to get us taken much more seriously in future.
Or we could all just whinge about not being able to stay in a hotel in a different part of the country.
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| I'm in the camp which says scrap it. The idea was to spread the gospel of RL and it doesn't seem to have worked. We tried it mid season and tried it as an opener at locations aimed at new audiences. Now we're in Manchester? It should have been north east for me? Maybe Newcastle and invite a Cumbrian side in some way.
The fixtures are seriously unfair but without the Wigan v saints game there would be less attraction to neutrals.
Scrap it!!!
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| any idea of dates for this anybody?
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| The extra bank holiday at the start of June. 2nd and 3rd I think.
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| Good move by the RFL. The Millennium Stadium was just full of Northerners anyway. Cardiff is bloody difficult to get to (and away from!), even if it is a beautiful city.
It makes much more sense to hold it in Manchester.
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| Quote ="east stander".......Have you considered Manchester to an outsider may be seen as the M62 Corridor?
Scraping the barrel if you think Manchester is expansion, no really'"
At the end of the day Cardiff and Murrayfield were mostly full of normal RL fans anyway. Bring it closer to home while getting more fans in AND expand into a city which does not see much RL. Of course Manchester is expansion, we are taking the game to a place where it is not seen as a big sport.
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"any idea of dates for this anybody?'"
little birdie tells me weekend 26/27 May - I hope their wrong though as this is not a bank holiday weekend it the week after for the Jubilee
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| Waste of time having it in Manchester. On course for the lowest attendance yet.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Waste of time having it in Manchester. On course for the lowest attendance yet.'"
Not sure on that logic. Not a great fan of the concept but it still may be the first one I go to due to proximity.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"...On course for the lowest attendance yet.'"
How do you know that?
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| Quote ="talulah"How do you know that?'"
I'm pretty sure the Eithad Stadiums capacity is lower than the calculated "average" attendance of previous years.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"I'm pretty sure the Eithad Stadiums capacity is lower than the calculated "average" attendance of previous years.'"
But they'll do a 'calculated' average for the Eithad too. If they get 45,000 on Saturday and 30,000 on Sunday, they'll announce a 75,000 crowd.
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"At Cardiff I'm a captive audience. I've made a big effort to go so I want my moneysworth. In Manchester I won't care & the partner certainly won't stand for 'oh there nothing better to do and we've come all this way'.
Each to their own'"
I think you need to put your foot down and not let 'the partner' determine what you watch ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="east stander"Scraping the barrel if you think Manchester is expansion, no really'"
Rugby league is pretty much non-existant in manchester.
Apart from a few towns in lancashire and yorkshire, we arent a majority sport , even in the M62 corridor.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Waste of time having it in Manchester. On course for the lowest attendance yet.'"
It'll get the best crowds to date by a way IMO so don't get your thinking on the 2nd point.
As for a waste of time? Everyone's opinions will differ on that score but I'm happy enough. It'll bring in revenue and exposure to the sport that a normal round wouldn't and whilst I backed and attended every magic event a lot of people don't and 'say' that due to the cost of travel and accommodation so there's no excuse on that front anymore.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It'll get the best crowds to date by a way IMO so don't get your thinking on the 2nd point.
As for a waste of time? Everyone's opinions will differ on that score but I'm happy enough. It'll bring in revenue and exposure to the sport that a normal round wouldn't and whilst I backed and attended every magic event a lot of people don't and 'say' that due to the cost of travel and accommodation so there's no excuse on that front anymore.'"
Good post. Going round the various sites on RLfans the reaction has been very positive so far.
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