Ok the second rate NRL player, who grew up in NZ but chose to play for Samoa as he wasn't good enough for the NZ team.

Also the best centre in the league?

I just cant get enough, I just cant get enough
All the things you do to me and everything you said
I just cant get enough, I just cant get enough


ever since the WCC...Performed week in week out. Anybody that cant recognise his performances are deluded, I've given praise to the likes of roby and Monaghan just as i feel carmont deserved it. anyone that disagrees is deluded or anti wigan, simple.. those 3 have performed outstanding for each club and if MoS was as fair as it should be, they would all be favs or 2favs!

Georgous george!

Yes great, but where have I said either Carmont or Tomkins haven't been great this season, or aren't great SL players.... I said Tomkins isn't as good as arguably the best back in the world in Billy Slater.... and George Carmont was a second rate NRL player... neither of those means they aren't very good SL players.

So are Matt King, Joel Monaghan and Brett Hodgeson 2nd rate too? Because, in case it escaped your notice, those were the backs that Carmont and Tomkins outplayed today. get your head from out of the Aussies backsides and acknowledge your own. It's 'Brits' like you and your inferiority complexes that make me ashamed to be British.

And what game were you watching in the WCC. St George, the NRL champions had the devil's own job to overcome a Wigan side that were down to 2 fit props. 1 score was the difference in the end. In their own words St George reckoned Wigan would beat many sides in that comp. You're an emabarrassment. Thank god we don't have the likes of you in the armed forces. You'd take one look at a supposedly superior opposition and surrender.

Sam tomkin is outstanding for sure and was awesome today. but widdop is having a better season down here in the nrl than Tomkin is at home. Widdop isn't quite the broken runner tomkin is but widdop has him in ever other department, kicking, defence, ball playing(the main one), goal kicking.

England have a few awesome young talents. Tomkin been the outstanding talent in sl.

How embarassing.... whats inferiority got to do with anything, I watch both SL and NRL and anyone with half a brain can tell you which is superior, and the backs in paticularly are far better over there, thats why when the best english players move there, they say its for the challenge.... i.e its a far better comp dimwit.

Typical thuggish Brit, can't acknowledge that other countries are better at certain sports, I suppose you're the type who lambasts the football team when they get outplayed by Spain, Brazil etc...

Get a brain.

No, I totally acknowledge that the Australian game is currently better than the British game. That doesn't mean to say that all things Australian are automatically better than all things British. Sam tomkins is class, as was Boston, Robinson, Offiah, Hanley, and many more besides before him. So, as Nathan Brown pointed out recently, is O'Loughlin. In the same way that Burgess and Ellis are showing at the moment, The best of British are perfectly capable of excelling in the NRL. People like you are an embarrassment to your country.

British Thug? Because I stick up for British players and don't doff my cap to our lords and masters the Aussies? Laughable. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you aren't feeling tthat prickly feeling up the back of your neck right now then you're not only an embarrassment but a sad excuse for an Englishman....presuming you are an Englishman, that is....Jeez, I so hope you aren't.

Ok so in your opinion Sam Tomkins is a better rugby player than Billy Slater?

Oh and Burgess isn't doing much at the moment bar sitting on the treatment table.

No you're a typical british thug because you're moaning at me because I am not letting patriotic bias get in the way of my judgement about which league is better, and which players are better.

I take it you're a supporter of the BNP?

My girlfriend is Jamaican. Yes I'm a member of the BNP. You're an imbecile.

Again, I'll ask you to show where I claimed that Tomkins was better than Billy Slater. I merely said they (he and Carmont) aren't 2nd rate. other than your own misguided opinion, I'd like to see some sort of evidence that supports this claim.

I'm not "moaning at you". I'm merely pointing out what an imbecile you are. To be frank, you're doing a far better job of that than I ever could.

Sam is an outstanding talent mate and I understand you pies have tinted glasses but there a lots of players who are the talent tomkin is and some are a level above him

Beale
Gardner
Barba
carney
Cherry-evens
Dugan
Hoppauati
Hayne
Boyd
Widdop
Idris
Hoffman
Pearce
Morris
Kenny-dowall
Foran
Sandow
Blair
Jennings
Slater
Soward
Marshal
Stewart
Bowen
Smith
Gidley
Thurston
Cronk
Prince
Lockyer
Lyon
Gasnier
Gallen
Scott
Sims
Snowden

There are plenty of amazing players in the game young and old. As outstanding in sl as tomkin is he has plenty to do.

Where did I say Tomkins was second rate?

Is me saying Tomkins isn't as good as Slater translate in your mind to me saying his second rate, is this is why you're so upset.



Look I have lost interest in what you have to say, you keep lying and putting words in my mouth.

The feeling's mutual.

When you ask reasonable posters offensive questions such as are they members of the BNP then you make it clear that you are not interested in a sensible discussion.

Bad argument as half your team has played in the NRL and done well there yet you cant win the league....

The same second rate Carmont who ripped open the St George defence and raced 65 yards to score?! If that's second rate then second rate is good enough for me.