Just said this on another thread.

Leeds are a team of players who give cheap shots and always try to moan at the ref.

McGuire is a cheat.

PS- HIS DEFENCE FOR THE CHARNLEY TRY SHOWS WHY HE SHOULD NEVER BE SELECTED FOR ENGLAND.... LAUGHABLE.

That goading by Smith after the final whistle last season I knew would come back to haunt them, 3 times now, Leeds really are a desperate club now.

Yes, we keep hearing this from other fans. Unfortunately his record at Redhall proves otherwise! So what conclusion can we arrive at then Ted, eh? Urban myth or simply gormless rival fans?

And with the most penalised player last year being none other than the elder brother of the most detested cheat in SL, your very own version of the Addams Family is hardly a shining example, now is it?

And that's before we mention any past salary cap errors and points deductions.

Nope, I think best all round Ted, for anyone with any connection at Wigan to keep quiet, rather than bandy phrases about like utter disgrace.

And in any case, you can't get eat a meat n tater pie, when yer foot's stuck in yer gob!

So you choose when to trust and when not to trust the RFL? They get these decisions right do they? Of course they do. Look at the 40th minute of our game against saints and see if you can spot why Tuson was banned.

Earlier in the season Lima was banned twice for tackling around the legs.

Good one.

No you won the game cos of some of the above without doubt. But the difference was the blatant forward pass this season that gave you that try. Do the maths . As for the Leeds team classed as cheats. Well that coming from a bloke who supports Wigan is pretty rich hey. You brought cheating to a new art but not to worry Sam the cheat will keep it going as long as he is playing for Wigan.

How is Sam T a cheat - yes he gave a way a proffesional foul when tackling KS but it was the ref who chose to penalise him and not put him in the bin, which should have been the correct decision. That is not cheating, he was penalised, a high tackle ends up with a penalty - is that cheating?

As for the forward pass until touchies grow some and want to get involved forward passes will always happen - either the VR rules are ammended to compensate this or we carry on with what we have - sometimes luck goes your way and it did on Friday for Wigan the same way it went for you last year in the Playoffs in the dying seconds when IIRC the penalty Wigan had in the last 10 seconds should have been further down the pitch not in the position it was given
in making the kick easier.

Wigan were lucky on Friday but that luck will run out if we dont improve.

Enjoy your Sunday

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We OWN the RFL and dont you forget it, ever.

Loves bitter Lids fans We won you Lost lmao haha now close door on way out

The RFL get very little right. It's record on franchising is a joke - keeping Widnes out (again) because of financial problems under previous owners while allowing Wakefield to stay in SL on the back of financial projections and stadium promises that were woefully optimistic, at best.

It's record on disciplinary issues is little better - there is no consistency and again a distinct Yorkshire bias. The RFU have a judge heading up their disciplinary function - who heads the RFL's? Some of the rules are very poorly written - see e.g. the one regarding self defence, which confuses self defence and provocation, the whole system is a joke.

And don't even get me started on the ridiculous salary cap system, which has been inconsistently enforced and makes very little sense, or the 20/20 rule, which if you were trying to bring about a rule that was more damaging to RL you would find it difficult to top...

It's always been said of RL that we have amateurs running a professional game and sadly it's as true now as it's always been.

Anyone referring to the RFL for support for their arguments is effectively admitting they're wrong.

Short memory, the most blatant forward pass this season, Hardakers try for Leeds v Saints at Headingley.

Tell me that if your younger brother were being targetted by disgusting tactics, you wouldn't do what you could to defend him? I would!

Not our fault if we OWN the RFL is it Billy? After all we are the worlds most famous and successful Rugby League club. Super League needs a strong Wigan, imagine it without us...................

Exactly! One of the worst I've ever seen that one. And they still lost

You mean like in 2006?

And last time I looked you own very little. Tesco's doing well though!

The trick when someone has really stung you is not to show it.

yes,that really was scandalous !!! more blatant than the Richards effort

FWIW - you lot are moaning/arguing about McGuire & Tomkins but as a neutral I would love to see them in my team anyday.....two great players.

One thing you can't deny is that Yorkshire bitter is the best... And especially in large quantities.... Loving it, fire up the B-B-Q and get the chicken wings out...

Cumberland or Westmorland bitter for my money.

One think you can't deny however, is that Yorkshire have the best serial killers and domestic terrorists.

McGuire has become another of the long line at Leeds that do not reach their potential. Smith and Bailey are 2 other examples.

McGuire has gone from a potentially great support playing pacey half to a cheap shot merchant. I am certain if he concentrated on his game like the other 2 they would be far superior players.

McGuire was throwing cheap shots all night. Tried to put a few on Joel one which went un-noticed by the refs and the Sky team that was a bad one and resulted in a bit of a scuffle off the ball.

Players like the 3 mentioned could in my opinion been a real asset to the International team but lost their way, were I a Leeds fan I would be very concerned about that fact.

Thank you for your concern. It's very touching.

No really. The whole town seems to be obsessed with all things Leeds.

More concerned from an England/GB point of view. Leeds can rot along with Wire worst set of ignorant fans in the game.

Cant help but to post about Leeds when we have a few clowns on the Wigan forum posting about their defeat.

Leave us alone, weve done with you for the season.


oh and just remember..
Were Wigan Rugby.. We'll do what we want!

Leeds Whiners - a spent force if ever there was one.

They've won so much in recent years, now its all going Pete Tong they haven't got the strength of character and psychological integrity to handle it and have gone from a skilled rugby team (Bailey excluded) to Superleague 2011's whiners and cheat shot merchants - pun intended.

We were also in the position of everything going wrong a few years ago.......... except we handled it better, no whining, no cheap shots, just getting stuck in and getting there by sheer hard graft.

Enjoy the ride boys...... it won't be fun.

I think most opposition fan's issue with Sam T is his moments of impetulance and gamesmanship - particularly in the struggle to play the ball. He milks the penalty for all it's worth. Shame really, as he's a great prospect. He's no Darren Lockyer thats for sure. Presumably no one will entertain the idea that he deliberately knocked the ball from Maguire's hands and therefore play should have continued?

The one what won them the game v crusaders was way worse