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| Quote: post "You give Wellens too much credit pal he aint that fast any more.'"
But fast enough to nip over for 4 tries on Sunday
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| Quote: twosevenzero "But fast enough to nip over for 4 tries on Sunday
I haven't seen Wellens tries yet but I'll bet there are no 60 yarders like Amos scored on Friday in his four.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I haven't seen Wellens tries yet but I'll bet there are no 60 yarders like Amos scored on Friday in his four.'"
But he's a winger not a fullback, there are few fullbacks that can score from that distance including Greenshields and Hodgson, maybe Webb ?, did'nt he do that for the Kiwi's against GB ?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I haven't seen Wellens tries yet but I'll bet there are no 60 yarders like Amos scored on Friday in his four.'"
All 2 yard specials.
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| Our strongest options to combat King's aerial threat is Amos Roberts and Pat Richards out on the wings. In truth we only need to replace our fullback and should try not to shuffle the team too much. Amos Roberts is on fire on the wing at the moment and I would keep him there. Ainscough would just get peppered by King and could be a disaster for his return back to first team football. It wouldn't do his confidence much good. As for Pryce, he may have the size, but he I doubt he has the leap to defend high kicks. Plus he is more of a centre and would be playing out of position, same for Goulding.
I don't think Josh Vievers is a bad call. Let's have 2 specialist wingers on the wing and have a specialist fullback at fullback. The lad should be given a chance at some point. Why not now? At the end of the day, even with Phelps missing we still managed to score 22 unanswered points.
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| I havn't read all of this thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Couldn't we switch Pat to defend Kings wing and put Ainscough up against Riley on the other wing. Would this work or are wingers really fussy about which side they play on??
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| Quote: cadoo "At the end of the day, even with Phelps missing we still managed to score 22 unanswered points.'"
With Roberts chiming in and causing all sorts of problems from fullback.
I'm not saying it's ideal having to move him to fullback for a few weeks but it's going to have to be done I think. We simply can't go into this game with a debutant at fullback. It's too important a position imo and one you can be totally exposed in.
We've got 2 serious options imo-
One is to play Roberts at fullback and bring Pryce in on the right wing
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Move Richards to fullback and bring Pryce, Ainscough or Goulding in on the left wing. We could play any of the 3 on that side because they won't have to face the same arial threat from Riley that they would from King.
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| Quote: Nogga "I havn't read all of this thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Couldn't we switch Pat to defend Kings wing and put Ainscough up against Riley on the other wing. Would this work or are wingers really fussy about which side they play on??'"
They may not mind personally what side of the field they are on but it would seem a shuffle too far imo due to both centres having to then play with a new winger.
Keep the fuss to a minimum and give Pryce his big chance.
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| Then again thinking about my previous post, why should we worry about them so much. Keep Richards up against Riley and he will have a field day!!!
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| Quote: NickyKiss "With Roberts chiming in and causing all sorts of problems from fullback.
I'm not saying it's ideal having to move him to fullback for a few weeks but it's going to have to be done I think. We simply can't go into this game with a debutant at fullback. It's too important a position imo and one you can be totally exposed in.
We've got 2 serious options imo-
One is to play Roberts at fullback and bring Pryce in on the right wing
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Move Richards to fullback and bring Pryce, Ainscough or Goulding in on the left wing. We could play any of the 3 on that side because they won't have to face the same arial threat from Riley that they would from King.'"
It can also be a game in which young players really make a name for themselves and show what they can do on the big stage. Ainscough got his chance and did the same, as did Sam Tomkins. All these players have to be given a chance at some point. Just because it is Warrington shouldn't make too much difference IMO. Every Super League game will be tough for anyone making their debut, that's just the way it is.
Playing Roberts at fullback could be an option, but playing Pryce in the wing IMO would leave him just as exposed as Ainscough. Ainscough doesn't have the height and Pryce doesn't have the mobility to leap for a high ball.
Your other option sounds like a Brian Noble ploy. Musical chairs because you fear playing a young lad. Take a chance, bite the bullet and give him a go I say. Leave Roberts and Richards on the wings where they have been the most dangerous and give our only other specialist fullback a go.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "With Roberts chiming in and causing all sorts of problems from fullback.'"
So this implies then that we didn't miss Phelps as much as we may have thought. I doubt he would have scored that try Roberts scored right at the end. He wouldn't have had the pace.
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| We will miss phelps on sat and for coming 4 weeks just hope they put pat/amos there at F/B and bring in goulding who is a bit more solid than ainscough
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| Quote: cadoo "So this implies then that we didn't miss Phelps as much as we may have thought. I doubt he would have scored that try Roberts scored right at the end. He wouldn't have had the pace.'"
Not really, he just brings different types of problems to defences.
Who's to say that Phelps wouldn't have created more tries for toehr players than what Roberts did in the 2nd half, even if he hadn't scored that last try?
If you don't like Phelps then fair enough, but don't try & Put words in somebody elses mouth?
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| Thus far Phelps' creativity from 1 has been superb, but i do think Roberts can also fill this void.
Roberts can pass a ball very well and can pick a line to attack.
The injury to Phelps is unfortunate, he has undoubtedly played very well thus far, but if we cope without him and continue to cause a threat from the back 3 without him, his position for 2011 is under threat because of his contract and quota status.
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| Quote: jonh "Thus far Phelps' creativity from 1 has been superb, but i do think Roberts can also fill this void.
Roberts can pass a ball very well and can pick a line to attack.
The injury to Phelps is unfortunate, he has undoubtedly played very well thus far, but if we cope without him and continue to cause a threat from the back 3 without him, his position for 2011 is under threat because of his contract and quota status.'"
Agree, but, in an ideal world this weekend would you have gone with
1/Phelps
2/Roberts
3/Richards
Or
1/Roberts
2/ "Insert Name i.e Ainscough/Goulding/Pryce"
3/Richards
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