how the f has this reached 10 pages, and most of it utter drivel.

whats watching union got to do with rugby league ?

can i suggest you go find a union forum

great article in the times

[urlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article5946900.ece?Submitted=true[/url

I'm born and bred wiganer league is in my blood..But i'm not going to say sorry for liking international Union. for me theres no more passionate scene in world sport than the millenium stadium in full voice singing there national anthem.

My grandfather is Irish so i have a passion for the country and its people..i enjoyed the game yesterday and without shame i cheered when o'gara kicked the drop goal.

Give me League anyday of the week. but i enjoy the international side to union. maybe because i like to see passion and pride. As a league man its a crying shame we dont have anything close.


BTW O'driscolls a class act

the difference being that league is all about what is on the pitch.
the game was poor and will sadly be romanticised due to that drop goal.

I agree the Quality was not the best

And as i said give me league even at international anyday of theweek..But i admire what the international scene is in Union and the passion it brings out of all there fans.

a meaningful international fixture list and more competitive games would go some way to putting that right in rugby league.

Deleted cos now's not the time for bile. RIP Leon.

Agree 100%. No further posts from me on this.

Appallingly sour article in The Times if you ask me from as bigoted an old fart as you would likely encounter on a long day's march.

Still, interesting but odd that the propagation of Rugby in Ireland was seen as some sort of Protestant conspiracy .....whereas we in Wigan appear dependent upon the "Catholic Mafia" to ensure the continuity of Rugby (albeit League) in our schools !........

I have only just come into this issue and only read 20/30 posts. I know I will be vilified but RU has come on massively since they went professional. They are now professional in everything, their crowds are up their internationals are what they are (we should admire them for what they do not be so bigoted), at each international match they got as many as the total crowds at League.

Also just watch now the qualtiy of passing and movement and technical play I accpet that in some phases RL is better but in handing and passing they are where we were 10 years ago. Passing in English RL is becoming a forgotten art, behind the player on his knees straight in touch. They also have better manners than we do which is a disgrace to our sport, do they boo the anthems, I have heard our fans boo even at Wigan which frankly makes me ashamed?

Union has moved on we have gone backwards.

Finally got to the article mate; was interesting. Looks like the article was written by the Irish equivalent of a flat-capper.

id have said written by a true irishman, proud of his country and its history.
he doesnt just sit there and let the bbc, rah rah media machine run him over.
hats off to the bloke!

Or a man stuck in the 1930s

Still, it was a colourfully written article, even if I didn't subscribe to his thought process.

Agree with much of this although not the manners part, but regards the game itself, it has come on leaps and bounds while we have gone back.

Its a shame some chose to burry there head in the sand and pretend it has not happened, but sadly many people like Brett have important positions in the game, and while union embrace our code and learn from it we bang on about the quality of the product and entertinment while they continue to improve in the right areas.