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| Quote ="thepriestman85"RU play their internationals in massive Stadiums like Twickers, Millenium Stadium, Murryfield, Stade de France & Cork park and they are almost always full! Is it any wonder they generate so much revenue with some tickets at twickers going for about £70 quid. Say what you want about the game but they can pull the crowds in for their international games and also generate a hell of a lot more media attention for them 2
Why can’t we get Wembley for our internationals this year instead of the JJB etc? We used to play GB games at Wembley and it makes the sport look a lot more professional imo if the team plays in the national stadium.'"
There would be no point it would be more than half empty.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"MY point is that it isn't exactly a significant achievement.
What's YOUR point?'"
That five international games on the bounce isn't easy to win maybe? Especially when your playing against teams of the same calibre to yourselves.
Wigan can’t even win five SL games in a row never mind England doing it against a team of the same quality not an under strength NZ team or PNG
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| Quote ="odemwingie"There would be no point it would be more than half empty.'"
I was much, much younger when Jonathan Davies scored in the corner at Wembley but I was there and I’m sure it was full.
I'm sure we used to fill it out so what has changed?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"RU play their internationals in massive Stadiums like Twickers, Millenium Stadium, Murryfield, Stade de France & Cork park and they are almost always full! Is it any wonder they generate so much revenue with some tickets at twickers going for about £70 quid. Say what you want about the game but they can pull the crowds in for their international games and also generate a hell of a lot more media attention for them 2
Why can’t we get Wembley for our internationals this year instead of the JJB etc? We used to play GB games at Wembley and it makes the sport look a lot more professional imo if the team plays in the national stadium.'"
I think brian Moore said the other week when England played Italy that it was around £85 a ticket
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"That five international games on the bounce isn't easy to win maybe? Especially when your playing against teams of the same calibre to yourselves.
Wigan can’t even win five SL games in a row never mind England doing it against a team of the same quality not an under strength NZ team or PNG'"
Give over.
For a start 2 of those are Italy and Scotland.
So that's the "Cas and Wakefield" of the Six nations taken care of.
Essentially there are just 4 teams in the Six nations that have a chance of winning.
So essentially win 3 games and you are guaranteed the title.
Add to this the fact that the skill on display was at the best "average" and more realistically "rubbish"..........
Now what exactly IS your point?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I was much, much younger when Jonathan Davies scored in the corner at Wembley but I was there and I’m sure it was full.
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It was nowhere near full.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"It was nowhere near full.'"
Well it was a good atmosphere and yes I was there.
As stated though, it gives the game more stature imo.
Playing internationals in the national stadium is important imo.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"MY point is that it isn't exactly a significant achievement.
What's YOUR point?'"
You claimed that they get the plaudits for winning a mere 5 games. My point is that had England won 3 in the World Cup, or should they win 4 in October/November then they will rightly get the plaudits as Tournament winners.
Had we won the World Cup would you have deemed it insignificant as we only won 5 games?
Alternatively, is New Zealand's win insignificant due to them only winning 4?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Playing internationals in the national stadium is important imo.'"
Rugby league doesn't have a national stadium.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Rugby league doesn't have a national stadium.'"
Well Wembley is the de facto RL National Stadium. Wouldn't you agree?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Well Wembley is the de facto RL National Stadium. Wouldn't you agree?'"
No. Wembley is the national football stadium.
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| in fact , Wembley is 'Operated by Wembley National Stadium Limited, a fully owned subsidiary of The Football Association'
more football than national ...
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| Maybe eventually the RFL could invest in our own stadium to play all our finals at and have the magic weekend there maybe and rent it out for concerts and varioous other things, it could make lots of money.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Maybe eventually the RFL could invest in our own stadium to play all our finals at and have the magic weekend there maybe and rent it out for concerts and varioous other things, it could make lots of money.'"

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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Give over.
For a start 2 of those are Italy and Scotland.
So that's the "Cas and Wakefield" of the Six nations taken care of.'"
The same Italy who pushed Wales all the way last week or Scotland who performed well today and pushed England well into the last ten mins? Or the same Scotland who beat England last year? There are no 'easy' games in the 6 nations even tho you may think there is.
Quote Essentially there are just 4 teams in the Six nations that have a chance of winning.
So essentially win 3 games and you are guaranteed the title.'"
So that's two more than who can win the RL world cup but yet everyone goes crazy over NZ winning the thing? Same difference is it not cause in my book it looks a hell of a lot easier to win in RL? If it was easy as what you say to win the grand slam why is it such a big deal to do it? Surly if everyone did it every year it wouldn’t be such a big deal?
Quote Add to this the fact that the skill on display was at the best "average" and more realistically "rubbish".......'"
Did you see England at the WC and you want to call that skill level rubbish? Put it this way so called world class players like Wellens, Gardner or Senior wouldn't have got in either of the Wales or Ireland backlines today.
So what actually is your point? Cause it looks like RL is miles behind RU on the international stage?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Rugby league doesn't have a national stadium.'"
Wembley is the closet thing we have to one you have to admit that right?
Maybe we can't fill out an international stadium of 70-80k but we could probably get 50k imo which is still a dam sight better than using the JJB isn’t it?
Would it be feasible to build our own National RL stadium for use for internationals, CC and the GF? How much do we spend a year do you reckon renting out different stadiums?
We need something like that tho to take us forward.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"No. Wembley is the national football stadium.'"
Can I suggest that you research the term "de facto" then come back to this thread?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Wembley is the closet thing we have to one you have to admit that right?
Maybe we can't fill out an international stadium of 70-80k but we could probably get 50k imo which is still a dam sight better than using the JJB isn’t it?
Would it be feasible to build our own National RL stadium for use for internationals, CC and the GF? How much do we spend a year do you reckon renting out different stadiums?
We need something like that tho to take us forward.'"
Wembley is the national football stadium, and we rent it out for one game, just like we rent out Old Trafford for one game, just like we rent out Murrayfield etc etc etc.
Rugby league can't afford to build stadiums. A £2m loss on the last world cup over here nearly bankrupt the sport. Just how much do you think a 60/70k stadium costs, one that would be full twice a year?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The same Italy who pushed Wales all the way last week or Scotland who performed well today and pushed England well into the last ten mins? Or the same Scotland who beat England last year? There are no 'easy' games in the 6 nations even tho you may think there is.
So that's two more than who can win the RL world cup but yet everyone goes crazy over NZ winning the thing? Same difference is it not cause in my book it looks a hell of a lot easier to win in RL? If it was easy as what you say to win the grand slam why is it such a big deal to do it? Surly if everyone did it every year it wouldn’t be such a big deal?
Did you see England at the WC and you want to call that skill level rubbish? Put it this way so called world class players like Wellens, Gardner or Senior wouldn't have got in either of the Wales or Ireland backlines today.
So what actually is your point? Cause it looks like RL is miles behind RU on the international stage?'"
Senior would walk into every 6N RU team. I agree the other 2 you mentioned are rubbish.
Are you honestly trying to tell me that the 4 Wales and Ireland Centres on display tonight are better than SL (even given it's gimped nature via the CC) can muster? 
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Can I suggest that you research the term "de facto" then come back to this thread?'"
I well aware of the definition, however we play our most important game of the year at Old Trafford.
HTH.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Wembley is the closet thing we have to one you have to admit that right?
Maybe we can't fill out an international stadium of 70-80k but we could probably get 50k imo which is still a dam sight better than using the JJB isn’t it?
Would it be feasible to build our own National RL stadium for use for internationals, CC and the GF? How much do we spend a year do you reckon renting out different stadiums?
We need something like that tho to take us forward.'"
OK - Hypothetical question: The RFL invest in a national stadium; where do they build it? A few locations:
London - Far away but good for hiring out. Cost of land etc would be high.
Manchester - M62 belt but good for hiring out.
Birmingham - Not too far; outside of the M62 so can't be accused of being flatcappers. Again, good for hiring out. Close proximity to West Country, might draw a few liberal Union fans who remember Wigan 7s etc?
Feel free to add more.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I well aware of the definition, however we play our most important game of the year at Old Trafford.
HTH.'"
We play our most important DOMESTIC game of the year at Old Trafford.
Hope THIS helps.............. 
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"We play our most important DOMESTIC game of the year at Old Trafford.
Hope THIS helps..............
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I blame the salary cap we don't have our own national stadium.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"MY point is that it isn't exactly a significant achievement.
What's YOUR point?'"
Winning rhe RL World Cup isn't 'signifcant' by these standards.
On the subject, I was walking into the pub and it was just starting-awful clap trap.
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| Only caught the 2nd half and I actually thought it was a good spectacle. So glad that last penalty didn't effect me. The Irish fans must have been sh*tting themselves.
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