In regard to Farrells defence, nonody reckon he is just taking the mick a bit?

He goes out and says "his defence could be better" then goes back to the team where Faz says "cheers for that boss".

Wane replies "its ok son dont want you getting too big for your boots".

It prob isnt but it comes across like an inside joke to me aimed twofold to annoy ppl that dont like Wane and for everyone to look at just how well Faz is doing before defending him.

Best way to highlight your players stats is probably to say something negative so ppl go and look.

You say Sam has been great with line breaks everyone nods, you say he could do more and suddenly everyone checks and ups arms because he is top in that regard.

My sentiments exactley, who gives a sh*t! At the end of the day a lot of you where knocking Wigans credentials and Wanes squad rotation in the friendlies before the season had even started i think you should at least eat your humble pie, you owe him that at least for the way he's got the lads playing. What a lot of you dont realise nor think about before you post is from coaches gone by John Monie, Mag etc.. Wane has got some serious acts to follow and im sure with the type of winner he is, he will want to be the best of the lot so we have no right to criticise how, why or what he expects from his players, he's a Wiganer thru and thru it's in the veins we cant ask for more than that!

To be fair to Wane, defence isn't just about making a lot of tackles and having few missed tackles. Farrell has given away more pens than any other player in in the squad, usually in the tackle or PTB. There is also the question of being in the correct position in the defensive line to make the tackle in the first place. These may the areas for improvement to which Wane is referring.

I can only thank God that the biggest talking-point about the Wigan coach is his media skill.

Sometimes our memories are just too short for our own good.

I think Agent Brown is doing a fine job over the lump

Indeed.

In fact their short term memories are rubbish too. Wigan's chances were being written off at the start of the season by many in the media (and quite a few Wigan fans).

Surely Wane deserves at least some of the credit for how we've been playing and how well the side has coped with major personnel changes and injuries?

Instead Wane appears to be the latest in a long line of targets for the lynch mob elements amongst the Wigan fans. As fans we showed we were the best in RL when we got behind the club in the dark days of the mid-noughties, our unprecedented show of support for our then failing team overshadowing Saint's greatest era of success, but still we let ourselves down with things like this.

Some of you lot must look for the tiniest little things to snipe about

Alright he may not have the best media savvy approach in the world but I didn't know that was part of his job description , he's coaching a team thats winning and playing an attractive style of rugby ( well , they entertain me anyway when I watch em on the box , I only watch it just incase they lose )

Shaun Wane showed a real touch of class when he went round to shake each Leigh players hand after Fridays match , the blokes gone up in my estimation

Right I'll leave you to your sniping

I'd like to see Wane sign a 'lifetime' deal at the end of the year ala Brian McDermott at Leeds.

I love reading back these threads. The usual numpties shown up again.

You'd think they'd learn

What happened to Vectrabeast.. I do miss him

Nothing much more to say really.

FWIW - Is there any possibility of Brett being allowed back onto the forum? A long term poster and not that bad compared to some we've had over the years!

Looking forward to his return myself... Where is the petition!! Or dare i say, an announcement!!