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| Quote: FGB "Really hope so that would be good for England!!!'"
It would be awesome, we've got second rowers to spare really haha, well definatly will have in a few years.
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| Yeah, the England team in a few years could have 3 Tomkins brothers & 4 Burgess brothers. Bizarre!!
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| Quote: FGB "Thaiday, Mannering, Pritchard, Creagh, Watmough, Myles, Mason..etc and Ellis & Burgess.
I rate Joel Tomkins as a player & agree he is one of the best second rowers in our comp. I hope he goes on to become world class, however at this moment in time I wouldnt put him in that bracket with the above players.'"
I would not swap Tomkins for Mannering........Simon Mannering has never seen World class, he is the kiwi version of Phil Bailey.
Tomkins may not be world class at the moment but he is going the right way about getting there.
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| Quote: jonh "
Tomkins may not be world class at the moment but he is going the right way about getting there.'"
Totally agree! Fair way to go but is heading in right direction.
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[quote="kimmo":19twb50c]your 6 7 and 9 this year will kill you off you will not make the play offs ,keep this post untill the end of the year and then we will come back to it and the best man wins ,deal or no deal .[/quote:19twb50c]: |
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| I thought it was a world class performance at the highest level of rugby this league has to offer. He really put himself about in attack and defence. It was not the prettiest of games but the intensity was top notch.
Agreed he has a bit to do to be up there with the likes of Ellis and Thaiday etc but he is on the right track.
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| "World Class". Two words bandied about in this country far too often.
The blame can be pinned to Mssrs. Hemmings & Stephenson, used far too often over this past decade regarding various British players (and plainly wrong).
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| Quote: MattyB ""World Class". Two words bandied about in this country far too often.
The blame can be pinned to Mssrs. Hemmings & Stephenson, used far too often over this past decade regarding various British players (and plainly wrong).'"
After thinking about it for the last 10 minutes or so I have come to this conclusion, basically the only thing that means we cannot call him world class is because he has not been tested at that level, but must surely be in contention to come the end of the year.
What more can you ask from a secondrow, he makes yards and breaks, scores tries, has a good off load and always gets on the front foot in defence which is quickly becoming consistently the most hurtful in SL.
While i agree world class is a phrase banded about too much Tomkins in my opinion has the game to get there all he needs now is the chance to prove it.
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| Were Ellis and Burgess "world class" before they played on Oz?
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| Quote: jonh "basically the only thing that means we cannot call him world class is because he has not been tested at that level, Quote: jonh "]
Correct.
If and when he plays International football and pitches himself up against the best teams in the world to the point he is winning the battles against his opposite numbers and respected by their media then we might be able to start talking about tagging him with such an honour.
The last true "World Class" player this country produced was Ellery Hanley.
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| Quote: MattyB "Quote: MattyB "basically the only thing that means we cannot call him world class is because he has not been tested at that level,
I think Sam Burgess and Gareth Ellis are proving that wrong Burgess in particular. I would also say Morley in his prime could also be considered World Class.
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[color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions
League Leaders
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Pat Richards: Man Of Steel
Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year
Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi]
[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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| I hate it when people on here just assume an English player isnt "World Class" because he isnt playing in NRL or isnt an Australian, why cant players like Joel Tomkins and Sean O'Loughlin be world class? If Joel played for Melbourne exactly the same way he is playing for us everybody would be saying he is world class but just because he is over here people just assume there is better in Australia, rubbish. JT or SO'L are fighting it our for MOS this year IMO & i wouldnt swap them for any other Loose or SR in the world.
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[b:3rwwi1cz][color=#800000:3rwwi1cz]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018 & 2023
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020 & 2023
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WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
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| Quote: Famous Amos "I hate it when people on here just assume an English player isnt "World Class" because he isnt playing in NRL or isnt an Australian, why cant players like Joel Tomkins and Sean O'Loughlin be world class? If Joel played for Melbourne exactly the same way he is playing for us everybody would be saying he is world class but just because he is over here people just assume there is better in Australia, rubbish. JT or SO'L are fighting it our for MOS this year IMO & i wouldnt swap them for any other Loose or SR in the world.'"
Because nine times out of ten over the last decade when the Aussies arrived at the end of the season to play in Tri Nations or World Cups, the touted "World Class" players such as Wellens, Cunningham, Long, Maguire and Sinfield have had their ar$es handed to them on many occasions.
I'm all up for Lockers & JT doing a Burgess and Ellis and going over to NRL if they wished - they would get my blessing (although not yet for the good of our team), I think they would rock. Would be interesting to see how well they fared. I remember taking an interest in the NRL when Andy Greg, Hanley and Edwards spent our off season playing in Aus. They were treated like Gods, in fact Hanley IIRC it was that spell which earned Hanley the nickname "The Black Pearl".
Good times.
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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Quote: Famous Amos " JT or SO'L are fighting it our for MOS this year IMO'"
Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat for me.
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| Quote: Famous Amos ".'"
Turncoat.
Feka not good enough anymore eh?
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26076_1286623377.jpg [color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi]
[color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions
League Leaders
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Club of The Year
Floodlit 9's Winners
Pat Richards: Man Of Steel
Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year
Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi]
[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "Turncoat.
Feka not good enough anymore eh?
Nah, hes leavin at the end of the year, it was time to let go
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