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| Quote: hula89 "HE WAS TOP TRY SCORER!'"
Was the original guy going on about just this season or Richards at Wigan collectively ?
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| Quote: Grimmy "Yeah but there are no sides like Harlequins and Crusaders who sides effectively get a bye against in the NRL. It's surely tougher to perform week in week out in that league.'"
Crusaders were in the top 8 this year.
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| Quote: Yed "Was the original guy going on about just this season or Richards at Wigan collectively ?'"
It was said that he isnt a world class player now I dont know if you learnt tenses at school but that means the hear and now and I would say that as you have to base that on the most recent and current form then he is world class.
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| Quote: hula89 "It was said that he isnt a world class player now I dont know if you learnt tenses at school but that means the hear and now and I would say that as you have to base that on the most recent and current form then he is world class.'"
I'm not trying to be difficult because i obviously rate Richards but can ANYONE NRL or SL be classed as world class after one fantastic season ?
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| Quote: Yed "I'm not trying to be difficult because i obviously rate Richards but can ANYONE NRL or SL be classed as world class after one fantastic season ?'"
He also had a great year when he won the NRL grand final breaking the West Tigers try scoring reconrd in that year.
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| Quote: Pieman "breaking the West Tigers try scoring reconrd in that year.'"
They'd only been around for 7 years
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| Quote: FearTheVee "They'd only been around for 7 years
Still broke it, 26 tries in a grand final winning season isnt bad is it?
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| Quote: Pieman "Still broke it, 26 tries in a grand final winning season isnt bad is it?'"
It's darned excellent, just the record bit made me smile - no offence intended
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| I dont class him as world class, in fact i dont class any player in SL world class.SL has very good players,and thats about it.
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| Quote: Bobby Digital "I dont class him as world class, in fact i dont class any player in SL world class.SL has very good players,and thats about it.'"
Ah right. Matt King was world class until he came to SL now hes good...amazing what a plane journey can do
Ellis and Burgess were good but the journey on the plane made them world class
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| Quote: Pieman "Ah right. Matt King was world class until he came to SL now hes good...amazing what a plane journey can do
No what has made them pair better players is playing in better and more skillful league. With better players, coaches around them.Matt King is a very good player with a little bit of x factor about him.The term world class is used to loosely by certain sectors of the media.Who also bulid up the younger players, who hvent even had the chance to prove them selfs.
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| World Class i agree should be an extra higher rare grade
Hanley compared to Richards No contest
that's the difference from being world class to just very very good
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| Quote: Yed "World Class i agree should be an extra higher rare grade
Hanley compared to Richards No contest
that's the difference from being world class to just very very good'"
A very good point.
Phrases like 'world class' get thrown about much too liberally at times.
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| Quote: Pieman "Ah right. Matt King was world class until he came to SL now hes good...amazing what a plane journey can do
Matt King - Was only a first choice player for Australia for a season and a half, got dropped before he went to Warrington. Scored 2 tries in 10 games on the wing for aus at his peak, he's never been world class.
Ellis - Not sure I'd call him world class either at present, looked very ordinary in the last four nations
Burgess - Was world class before he went to Aus, hence him tearing it up in the four nations at the end of '09
The term 'world class' is used far too much, for me if a player is 'world class' he would play in a world 17. The super league players I would give that tag too are James Graham, Sean O'Loughlin, maybe Morley and maybe Richards (depending on how both return from injury)
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| Quote: Grimmy "Matt King - Was only a first choice player for Australia for a season and a half, got dropped before he went to Warrington. Scored 2 tries in 10 games on the wing for aus at his peak, he's never been world class.
Ellis - Not sure I'd call him world class either at present, looked very ordinary in the last four nations
Burgess - Was world class before he went to Aus, hence him tearing it up in the four nations at the end of '09
The term 'world class' is used far too much, for me if a player is 'world class' he would play in a world 17. The super league players I would give that tag too are James Graham, Sean O'Loughlin, maybe Morley and maybe Richards (depending on how both return from injury)'"
Scored a hat trick at Origin, played 10 times for Aus which isnt bad as there arent many international games a year. Scored 60 tries in 4 years at the Storm. When Wire signed him he was one of the best centres/wingers in the world. But, that doesnt make him world class?
Ellis has got player of the season for 2 years in a row at Wests ahead of Farrah and Marshall. Sheens called him dollar for dollar the best signing the club has ever made.
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