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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"He's obviously taking a career break if he's signing for Hull.'"
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"Loved him at Wigan, and i assume most people know the reason we got shut, and wouldnt hold a grudge against the lad - Wigan were put in a dodgy position and i wish him all the best'"
i am not aware of why, i know the rumors but nothing thats accurate
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The thing which really irks me about this situation is that the biggest loser in all of this is Wigan.
Hull FC have got a quality player that let's not forget we payed 100k for,
Gleeson has got another SL contract
Wigan are out of pocket & a quality player down.'"
£140k + Mathers (according to my reading of Wigan's published accounts)
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| Quote ="bestie1983"We should have done a swap deal if he was just gonna sign for another club so much for sorting himself out I think lenegan has bo@@ocks this one up from all aspects'"
Or been taken for a ride by Gleeson. Either way it leaves a bad taste. We've basically given him a free transfer to Hull without having a replacement lined up.
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| cant help but feel screwed over in this
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| no matter which way you look at this wigan have lost out. were they aware he would sign for another SL club so soon after mutually terminating his contract at wigan (if it was mutual) and if so surely wigan should have taken some sort of benefit from it but by the sounds of things we haven't.
bit gutted really. since gleeson has been out of the side we have struggled defensively on the whole due to the constant rotation of playing staff IMO.
seems a little double standards to me, making gleeson leave but signing hock back up, both different personal lives and reasons for their respective controversies obviously but on the whole both with their own personal demons. why get rid of one who can play now but "keep" hold of one who can't yet play?
good signing for hull IMO despite what he may be dealing with off the pitch. i don't think pairing him up with longy etc again will have any bearing whatsoever. if they are mates outside of rugby anyway then it will make no difference whether they are in the same team or not.
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| Quote ="the mighty wigan town!!!"no matter which way you look at this wigan have lost out. were they aware he would sign for another SL club so soon after mutually terminating his contract at wigan (if it was mutual) and if so surely wigan should have taken some sort of benefit from it but by the sounds of things we haven't.
bit gutted really. since gleeson has been out of the side we have struggled defensively on the whole due to the constant rotation of playing staff IMO.
seems a little double standards to me, making gleeson leave but signing hock back up, both different personal lives and reasons for their respective controversies obviously but on the whole both with their own personal demons. why get rid of one who can play now but "keep" hold of one who can't yet play?
good signing for hull IMO despite what he may be dealing with off the pitch. i don't think pairing him up with longy etc again will have any bearing whatsoever. if they are mates outside of rugby anyway then it will make no difference whether they are in the same team or not.'"
Its not really double standards though is it? Hock had ONE moment of idiocy that cost him two years of his lucrative career. Gleeson had at least 3 moments of idiocy that cost him his contract at the most famous club in the world. Hock i, in I think most fan's eyes, not as bad as Gleeson because he only did 1 thing wrong and it cost him more than it did Gleeson for his multiple idiotic moments.
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| Quote ="hula89"Its not really double standards though is it? Hock had ONE moment of idiocy that cost him two years of his lucrative career. Gleeson had at least 3 moments of idiocy that cost him his contract at the most famous club in the world. Hock i, in I think most fan's eyes, not as bad as Gleeson because he only did 1 thing wrong and it cost him more than it did Gleeson for his multiple idiotic moments.'"
didn't necessarily mean to compare their respective incidents as it were, more to the point of getting rid of gleeson who we could have kept hold of and used while on the other hand gaz hock has been of no use to wigan while serving his ban. glesson hasn't been banned for this. we've just got rid, which is why i feel we have lost out in the gleeson issue whereas we haven't gained anything while gaz has been banned.
basically what i'm saying is if gleeson is good enough to play for hull then why did wigan get rid. his circumstances haven't changed and he will still have his problems but hull have decided to risk it whereas wigan have lost out on probably one of our top two defensive players, certainly centres. the results since he has been ommitted fromthe team are evident.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"£140k + Mathers (according to my reading of Wigan's published accounts)'"
Well worth the price of a title win.
When was your last BTW? 
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| Quote ="truewiganer"cant help but feel screwed over in this'"
Similar situation to the Sean Long scenario.
Wigan had to get rid and another team got the benefit (albeit Gleeson is in his thirties and Long was about 20).
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| Quote ="hula89"Its not really double standards though is it? Hock had ONE moment of idiocy that cost him two years of his lucrative career. '"
Yeah Gareth Hock only had one moment of idiocy not like that ex-Academy player Gareth Charnock.
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| Quote ="hula89"Its not really double standards though is it? Hock had ONE moment of idiocy that cost him two years of his lucrative career. Gleeson had at least 3 moments of idiocy that cost him his contract at the most famous club in the world. Hock i, in I think most fan's eyes, not as bad as Gleeson because he only did 1 thing wrong and it cost him more than it did Gleeson for his multiple idiotic moments.'"
He did one thing wrong repeatedly over the course of several months.....
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| its a fine line between what Hock did and what charnock did
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Yeah Gareth Hock only had one moment of idiocy not like that ex-Academy player Gareth Charnock.'"
Gareth Charnock NEVER played for Wigan academy.
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"Loved him at Wigan, and i assume most people know the reason we got shut, and wouldnt hold a grudge against the lad - Wigan were put in a dodgy position and i wish him all the best'"
Enlighten me then because I am absolutely p!ssed that Wigan are down a top quality centre that we paid 100K for who now has a Super League contract and Hull FC have a top draw British centre.
I don't know the truth in all these dubious rumours, but on the cold hard face of it we've been screwed over.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Gareth Charnock NEVER played for Wigan academy.'"
Oh, I guess he had already "left" the club by then.
At least Gareth Hock isn't a repeat offender though Rogues?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Enlighten me then because I am absolutely p!ssed that Wigan are down a top quality centre that we paid 100K for who now has a Super League contract and Hull FC have a top draw British centre.
I don't know the truth in all these dubious rumours, but on the cold hard face of it we've been screwed over.'"
+1
Were the only real losers from this situation IMO. The only saving grace from this being I hear Gleeson was a disruptive entity at training, and tried to lead other players down the slippery slope that he was on.
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| TBH I'm struggling why some are feeling hard done to with regards the Gleeson situation. The club will have known he would likely sign for someone else pretty soon after and will no doubt have taken that into account in terms of the conditions of his release from the club.
Given the club forked out for him and realised what an important player he was, you can draw your own conclusion why they were still prepared to release him. Given the situation, no club would have paid a transfer fee for him or swapped any decent players we would want.
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| To misquote the line from the song "There WILL be trouble ahead". The terrible twins reunited - glad I don't live in Hull!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Hull must have the worst BOD in Super League.
To re-unite Long and Gleeson they are not just mad but absolutely barking! Good player, yes, but.......................
Haven't they just got rid of Tansey for disciplinary reasons and sent quite a few packing before him?
This just beggars belief by Kath Hetherington and her BOD.
She and them are useless!
Mind you, they gave Richard Agar a new two year deal last autumn, so we knew they were hopeless anyway!
The Hull FC fans deserve far, far better than that lot who are running their club.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"
The Hull FC fans deserve far, far better than that lot who are running their club.'"
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| i think it stinks.........so much for a break to get his head right.
most of Wigan know the "real problem" in his personal life..........but i think Gleesons taking the pee here tbh.
i hope his problems are "resolved" soon........then i fancy he will take a long break...
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| Quote ="hula89"Its not really double standards though is it? Hock had ONE moment of idiocy that cost him two years of his lucrative career. Gleeson had at least 3 moments of idiocy that cost him his contract at the most famous club in the world. Hock i, in I think most fan's eyes, not as bad as Gleeson because he only did 1 thing wrong and it cost him more than it did Gleeson for his multiple idiotic moments.'"
didnt Hock admit to taking cocaine on a regular basis before he got caught, and he would no doubt still be taking it now had he not been caught out.
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| So we let him go due to a minor disciplinary problem, injuries and so he could take some time away form the game to sort himself out.
So now he's signed for Hull the injuries can't be a problem and he's not taking any time away from the game. So that leaves [uminor[/u disciplinary" problem as the reason. We may even have paid him compensation.
If so we have paid out to strengthen another team and could not deal with the minor issues he had. Or the press release from the club was another complete waste of time and those were not the reasons at all.
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