Well, we lost the penalty count again (5-2 according to the BBC). I'm not sure how it's possible to beat a team 54 nil and still lose the penalty count and that's before you factor in the disruption Salford has had over this last week. Like all teams who face us, they must be supremely disciplined in this one match or something else is going on. Time for the club to say something I reckon. 

Only plus side is we aren't conceding and at least two of yesterday's were for technical offences, the two "no try" decisions, off-side and obstruction respectively.
It does seem strange though that our games end up with single figure penalty counts while double figures seems the norm through the rest of the fixtures.

I think it was 5-3 but yeah, insane 

When HKR beat them 42-0 they won the penalty count 11-3.
Leeds beat them 32-6 and won the penalty count 7-3.
Saints beat them 82-0 and won the penalty count 7-4.


Salford also conceded 10 and 6 penalties against Cas and Hudds respectively.


So they went from conceding an average of 8 penalties a game to 3. Whilst losing 54-0. 

The current SL table order with penalties received added. 

Pos	Team	Pens Received	Pens Conceded	Delta
1	Hull KR	33	25	8
2	Hull FC	33	33	0
3	Wigan Warriors	14	21	-7
4	St Helens	36	29	7
5	Warrington Wolves	31	24	7
6	Leigh Leopards	34	24	10
7	Leeds Rhinos	35	24	11
8	Wakefield Trinity	28	31	-3
9	Catalans Dragons	37	32	5
10	Castleford Tigers	28	38	-10
11	Salford Red Devils	23	44	-21
12	Huddersfield Giants	22	25	-3

I'm not complaining about the number of penalties in our matches, I'm all for refs keeping their whistles out of their mouths, but our games and to a slightly lesser degree Hudds, look to be being played under a different set of rules.
Quite bizarre 

It's crazy that you have to get to the 8th placed club before you find another team in negative figures and 10th before you get a worse one than ours. That can't be right. All bar Hull are net 14 or more better off than us. 

Thanks "Wiggin2" for the table.


That is absolutely dreadful. 


I do hope the club have taken this up with the RFL/Match Officials. 


Thing is if MP or an anyone commented on anything like this they'd be fined for bringing the game into disrepute. Trouble is it is clearly the match officials who are bringing the game into disrepute.


 

You could accept maybe 20-30% difference, though even that is extreme. But the fact we've received 60% less penalties than all teams around us makes it clear that refs are applying different rules to our games than others.


Then you double down with the fact that we are losing penalty counts despite being the league top scorers and have the joint 2nd best defence.


It also has to be direction from the refs structure, rather than at individual level as it's so consistent and I think we've had 4 or 5 different refs so far this year.

Even me, whose moaned my tits off the most about this and started the conversation, is surprised just how bad it all looks in black and white. Fans from all sides always complain about various things and when it comes to refs, you rarely have cold,hard facts and figures to back up your argument but we do. It's shocking and simply not right.

 I watched the House of league podcast with Matt Shaw earlier and he's Leeds bias no doubt but he highlighted how they were just about the best disciplined team in the league before the Wire game and how it made no sense how they were then pinged time and again against Wire, while getting very few pens themselves. If only he had a look at our figures! It's absolutely staggering. HKR in a couple of weeks will be a mess, no doubt about it. I'm going for 7 or 8 to 1. 

Also NK, it's the six agains too which we can't find the figures for. 
Leeds seems a typical example with Pen 5-1 in the Rhinos favour together with 3-0- to them on the 6 agains.
Overall 8-1 advantage in sets awarded will skew any match. Seeing that it does appear the lads on the field did a great job with only ending up 2 points down.


We do need to publicise this but the right way to do it is the conundrum.


 

And to make things better, Peet has been fined for an incident during the Hull game

And to make things better, Peet has been fined for an incident during the Hull game