They are backs though and the problem is the pack. Field looked very exciting before the injury (well for the minutes he was in the pitch) but why did we recruit him? French was also relatively unknown but despite his obvious talent Lam doesn’t seem to know how to get him into the team when fit along with Hardaker.

We lost Burgess, Flower and our biggest back row in Greenwood and signed another back. We are now linked with Thornley and even Gelling. It all seems a bit haphazard to me.

He didn't. He just didn't mention them because it didn't suit his juvenile agenda.

But I'm not going to pretend that all is well. It isn't. We aren't good enough man for man, and the coach is unable to get us up for any games that involve more than average effort.

Sorry to say this, but I hope we are now looking for someone else.

In the Radlinski interview he mentioned that June is usually a tough month for him. That's because June is when decisions around contract extensions are made.

Who to extend (and for how long/how much).
Who to let go.
Who to recruit to replace those let go.

I'm sure I heard that something like 9 players are out of contract this season (may be 8 now Gildart has been made official). If someone could add a link, or list the players below that would be appreciated.

In addition IL's one year rolling contract is also up for renewal. So plenty to get through over the next four weeks.

Makes shocking reading this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssion=true Quote We haven't been great admittedly over the recent weeks. To some degree, a loss was coming but to that extent, I just don't understand how we've got to that point '" Quote Whether that's an attitude or we just weren't quite there in the sense of how tough it was, but the preparation in the week was focused, we trained OK, but it's the penalties and errors that have hurt us the past three weeks. A loss was coming but to that extent, I did not see that coming'" If your coach's attitude is simply 'a loss was coming' then no wonder the effort today was zero (much like the scoreline). Out of his depth.

Makes shocking reading this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssion=true Quote We haven't been great admittedly over the recent weeks. To some degree, a loss was coming but to that extent, I just don't understand how we've got to that point '" Quote Whether that's an attitude or we just weren't quite there in the sense of how tough it was, but the preparation in the week was focused, we trained OK, but it's the penalties and errors that have hurt us the past three weeks. A loss was coming but to that extent, I did not see that coming'" If your coach's attitude is simply 'a loss was coming' then no wonder the effort today was zero (much like the scoreline). Out of his depth.

If Maurice Lyndsey was still here he Lam would have been sacked after the game today with the Hull defeat and now this miserable show ML would have sacked Lam.

Quote MattyB="MattyB"Makes shocking reading this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssion=true If your coach's attitude is simply 'a loss was coming' then no wonder the effort today was zero (much like the scoreline). Out of his depth.'" THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! He frustrates the life out of me. If this doesn’t scream “I’m out of my depth” I don’t know what does. I can’t honestly believe there’s still Adrian Lam happy clappers. IL needs to be ruthless. Get rid, and do it now.

Quote MattyB="MattyB"Makes shocking reading this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssion=true If your coach's attitude is simply 'a loss was coming' then no wonder the effort today was zero (much like the scoreline). Out of his depth.'" THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! He frustrates the life out of me. If this doesn’t scream “I’m out of my depth” I don’t know what does. I can’t honestly believe there’s still Adrian Lam happy clappers. IL needs to be ruthless. Get rid, and do it now.

oh,dear,how sad,never mind.

Its time that some stopped blaming the Coach and faced up to the fact that under Lenagan and Radlinski, the club is now in a mess from top to bottom and a lot of it has to do with a lack of finance.

You only have to look at the club website to see how everything is a shambles. No reports of Academy or Schlorship games, no proper player profiles and players listed as being at the club, but actually playing elsewhere and hardly a day goes by without the club announching a new sponser to boost in order to boost finances.

And supporters should be asking themselves the following questions:-

Why did Sean Edwards give back word on becoming Head Coach?

Why did Sam Tomkins suddenly decide after returning from down under, again for a second time, want out of the club?

Why was Mcllorum who was still the club's best hooker allow to leave in order to fit Powell into the position.

Why did Sean Wane who is 100% Wigan Rugby League Club throw in the towel of being Head Coach?

The answer is Lengan and Radlinski who have taken the club back to the level it was under the ownership of Dave Whelan with a average squad and poor signings.

No matter who is the Coach, he will have the same problems of a first team squad which outside a half dozen or so good class players is mostly made up of average, small and young players and has not the right blend of experience, size and quality players.

Perhaps, the time has come for the club to come under a more dynamic ownership like what happened in the late seventies when the club at the time was also was facing financial problems.

Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Its time that some stopped blaming the Coach and faced up to the fact that under Lenagan and Radlinski, the club is now in a mess from top to bottom and a lot of it has to do with a lack of finance. You only have to look at the club website to see how everything is a shambles. No reports of Academy or Schlorship games, no proper player profiles and players listed as being at the club, but actually playing elsewhere and hardly a day goes by without the club announching a new sponser to boost in order to boost finances. '" There are literally player profiles on the website. Academy match reports too. We even brought in a billionaire as a large shareholder... Quote Ruddy Duck And supporters should be asking themselves the following questions:- Why did Sean Edwards give back word on becoming Head Coach? '" Can’t argue with that. It was handled poorly and on a handshake. Quote Ruddy Duck Why did Sam Tomkins suddenly decide after returning from down under, again for a second time, want out of the club? '" Why did he go to the NRL? To challenge himself, better lifestyle. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wiga ... 5185%3famp All the answers you want. Quote Ruddy DuckWhy was Mcllorum who was still the club's best hooker allow to leave in order to fit Powell into the position.'" The head coach at the time was Shaun Wane. He made the decisions on who he kept and signed, ergo he made the decision to release Micky. A decision I didn’t agree with at the time and still don’t now. Quote Ruddy DuckWhy did Sean Wane who is 100% Wigan Rugby League Club throw in the towel of being Head Coach?'" Just because someone is ‘100% Wigan Rugby League’ doesn’t mean that person should stay tied to the club for life. He’s achieved everything he wanted with Wigan and made no secret of his desire to coach England and in the NRL. He’s said repeatedly he left because he wanted a new challenge and to concentrate on other ventures. Quote Ruddy DuckThe answer is Lengan and Radlinski who have taken the club back to the level it was under the ownership of Dave Whelan with a average squad and poor signings. No matter who is the Coach, he will have the same problems of a first team squad which outside a half dozen or so good class players is mostly made up of average, small and young players and has not the right blend of experience, size and quality players. Perhaps, the time has come for the club to come under a more dynamic ownership like what happened in the late seventies when the club at the time was also was facing financial problems.'" Whilst I don’t agree with every decision KR/IL make, you’re being ridiculous. Look at where we’ve come from since IL came in to where we are. Multiple titles and challenge cups with a club World Cup to boot. Heavy investment in the playing staff but also the facilities at Robin Park. We’ve made huge strides to ensuring success rolls on for years to come. You trying to change blame from Lam to IL/KR is laughable. Actually no, it’s embarrassing.

Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Its time that some stopped blaming the Coach and faced up to the fact that under Lenagan and Radlinski, the club is now in a mess from top to bottom and a lot of it has to do with a lack of finance. You only have to look at the club website to see how everything is a shambles. No reports of Academy or Schlorship games, no proper player profiles and players listed as being at the club, but actually playing elsewhere and hardly a day goes by without the club announching a new sponser to boost in order to boost finances. '" There are literally player profiles on the website. Academy match reports too. We even brought in a billionaire as a large shareholder... Quote Ruddy Duck And supporters should be asking themselves the following questions:- Why did Sean Edwards give back word on becoming Head Coach? '" Can’t argue with that. It was handled poorly and on a handshake. Quote Ruddy Duck Why did Sam Tomkins suddenly decide after returning from down under, again for a second time, want out of the club? '" Why did he go to the NRL? To challenge himself, better lifestyle. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wiga ... 5185%3famp All the answers you want. Quote Ruddy DuckWhy was Mcllorum who was still the club's best hooker allow to leave in order to fit Powell into the position.'" The head coach at the time was Shaun Wane. He made the decisions on who he kept and signed, ergo he made the decision to release Micky. A decision I didn’t agree with at the time and still don’t now. Quote Ruddy DuckWhy did Sean Wane who is 100% Wigan Rugby League Club throw in the towel of being Head Coach?'" Just because someone is ‘100% Wigan Rugby League’ doesn’t mean that person should stay tied to the club for life. He’s achieved everything he wanted with Wigan and made no secret of his desire to coach England and in the NRL. He’s said repeatedly he left because he wanted a new challenge and to concentrate on other ventures. Quote Ruddy DuckThe answer is Lengan and Radlinski who have taken the club back to the level it was under the ownership of Dave Whelan with a average squad and poor signings. No matter who is the Coach, he will have the same problems of a first team squad which outside a half dozen or so good class players is mostly made up of average, small and young players and has not the right blend of experience, size and quality players. Perhaps, the time has come for the club to come under a more dynamic ownership like what happened in the late seventies when the club at the time was also was facing financial problems.'" Whilst I don’t agree with every decision KR/IL make, you’re being ridiculous. Look at where we’ve come from since IL came in to where we are. Multiple titles and challenge cups with a club World Cup to boot. Heavy investment in the playing staff but also the facilities at Robin Park. We’ve made huge strides to ensuring success rolls on for years to come. You trying to change blame from Lam to IL/KR is laughable. Actually no, it’s embarrassing.

And if William the Conqueror was still king, Prince Harry wouldn't be embarrassing the nation nightly for the entertainment of his new American friends, as someone would have been sent to kill him.

But he isn't. And neither is Maurice, and even if he was, he's now 80 years old.

Revising history serves no purpose here.

Maurice was great in a non-salary cap era. But he was hopeless during his second stint. Even with Whelan in charge, a guy who could have run the club with his small change, they managed to comprehensively botch it.

You’ve missed the point.

He’s not wishing for Mo to be back. He’s saying IL should have some backbone like Mo and pull the trigger like Mo would have done.