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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Cherry and white specs on hits a new high. Manfredi the best English winger? Over Hall? Makinson is clearly head and shoulders over Davies, however given time he could be similar (if he has regular ball and a good centre). Marshall? Please don't get me started. Another error filled game, highlight was Charnley looking at him keeping him at arms length as he desperately was trying to do something.'"


The worst thing about that was the rest of the team just standing and watching instead of giving Marshall some help.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "The thing that’s getting me at the minute is how we continually bang on about our “world class” youth production line, but yet name a truly world class player it’s produced recently?

I look at Saints with envy to be totally honest. The likes of Makinson, Richardson, Percival, Grace and Thompson all brought through their ranks and looking for all money like some of them may well become world class.

Meanwhile we’ve brought through Burgess, Gildart, Williams, Powell, Davies, Sutton and Marshall who, don’t get me wrong on their day are good but they’re nowhere near the standard of Saints’ academy graduates IMHO.

Apols for going OT slightly and regarding the OP I’m a suckler for big aggressive take no sh*t forwards but I completely agree that the modern prop has to be more than a bully boy. A hybrid would be nice but they’re few and far between these days.'"



Put Ben Barba in Wigans team and our younger lads will be better than saints young lads.The difference between the two teams at the minute is Barba is winning games for saints.

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Quote: JonnyBroad "Put Ben Barba in Wigans team and our younger lads will be better than saints young lads.The difference between the two teams at the minute is Barba is winning games for saints.'"



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Quote: JonnyBroad "Put Ben Barba in Wigans team and our younger lads will be better than saints young lads.The difference between the two teams at the minute is Barba is winning games for saints.'"


100% correct

There’s still some bang average players in that Saints side who are riding a wave created by Barba. Look at Sunday, they played a really depleted Hull side and Barba had an off day. They won by the skin of their teeth after scoring two try’s when Hull we’re down to 11 men and had another ten minutes playing against 12 men.

They’ll probably win the lot this year if he stays fit but take him out and I’d be pretty certain it wouldn’t take long for cracks to start appearing.

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Quote: vastman "No they haven't, especially Widnes! I admit we are not there yet but we are still well ahead of all those and that includes Hudds though they have clearly rallied of late.

As for Kear, maybe, maybe not that's pure conjecture.

The fact is we should be better up front than we are and that lands at the feet of the players IMO.'"

You ought to make the split on early season form but Wakefield have not raised their game since that time. Huddersfield might catch you....but finishing 8th will save you because if you dont make it, in the middle 8s you will lose more than you'll win...which I'm not happy about. Trinity is my 2nd team.

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Quote: rubber duckie "You ought to make the split on early season form but Wakefield have not raised their game since that time. Huddersfield might catch you....but finishing 8th will save you because if you dont make it, in the middle 8s you will lose more than you'll win...which I'm not happy about. Trinity is my 2nd team.'"


Tomorrow’s game is crucial no doubt as apart from the points we need two wins on the bounce. If we do this i think our season will be transformed.

People seem to think we’ve been terrible this season and we simply haven’t. Five of our defeats were by six points or less which is hardly panic stations.

What we have not been able to do so far this season is find that real purple patch, those half dozen games most team have during a season.

I don’t want to tempt fate but if you want to find form now is the time to start doing it. We’ll see if it starts tomorrow.

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