I struggle to buy all this 'our moves are old and have been figured out' or 'we do nothing different from 2010' .. oh yes we do, our core skills are appalling. You don't need fancy moves to score a try. You need the ball moved at pace and with precision onto runners hitting the line at the correct time. That creates space and overlaps to score. we then need people with a brain cell to recognise those gaps and overlaps. Sadly we are lacking in all those areas. The aussies are not magic, they do the basics very well. we are incapable of passing the ball correctly.

excuses about Williams inexperience are fine, they cover up brain fart decisions, not being able to see space or making decision at the wrong time...that comes with experience..... they do not cover the 4/5 passes he put to ground at Salford and again at Brisbane. they are inexcusable basics every professional player should have. This goes for Smith and the rest of the team. Our best ball passer is Lockers.

we need to spend less time in the gym, less time wresting each other to death and more time doing the basics.

that's my humble opinion.

For me, I think it's just reached a point where i'd like to see what another coach could do with this group of players (and see which ones they'd get rid of). Craig Bellamy's contract runs out this year...

That last period tonight when Gildart came on for Tierney and Sarge moved to fullback looked effective, though brief. I'm a Tierney fan, but he doesn't link well in attack, though his solo runs are excellent.

There's no link there from Tierney and in a side that relies massively on that it effects us. I've got to hand it to the lad because he's been very solid in the main and he's done his reputation no harm but I hope that last 10 mins with Sarge at fullback and Gildart at centre is the way we'll start next week.

Tierney could provide a useful utility option from the bench. It may be a crazy shout but if we want somebody to throw on at 9 for 15 mins here and there to get out from dummy half and take some quick scoots/carries he could be just the man. It's no more crazy then Wane talking about Burke or Bateman going in there IMO.

Doesn't sound crazy to me.

There's no doubt that Sarge is the better fullback. He does present a threat in attack. However Tierney has confounded expectation. At this stage of the season I'd be tempted to keep him in the team. He has earned the right really. His defence is very good. He only dropped one right at the end, and Sneyd could have played in a dinner jacket for all the pressure the props put on his kicks.