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| Sarginson's problem is the same as Tomkins' problem. He's playing in a side whose tactical emphasis is high-octane "shoot out" rugby. Most teams attack from the inside out - or, from the forwards to the edges. Wigan attack from the edges straight out to the wings. Do not pass to the forward pack. Do not collect £200 etc.
Because Wigan either don't possess a functioning pack of forwards or use such solely as an adjunct to its emphasis on attacking through the backs the likes of Sarginson and Tomkins see a disproportionately high amount of ball (compared with, say, someone such as Mark Percival at Saints).
Wigan's centres have a much greater responsibility heaped on them. They are crucial to the team's chances of success and should either of them have an off day things go south in a big way.
Wigan's particular style of play is absolutely merciless against teams who are either soft in the middle or have weak defenders outside. One missed tackle and the next minute you're kicking off for the restart. Sadly, this is the defacto standard for all but the top four sides - which means Wigan get plenty of opportunity to do what they do best.
I mean, I genuinely do have a lot of respect for the way the club has developed its back division and the attacking brio it has instilled in players from the first team down to the juniors. It really is a model for the other clubs to emulate.
The problem arrives when the other team doesn't miss tackles. Under normal circumstances you'd expect the playmakers to pull the ball in tighter and wait for the right opportunity to strike. Unfortunately, Wane seems to think that his players are sufficiently good that such conservatism (or call it - pragmatism) isn't necessary and business can carry on as usual.
It's at this point that players such as Sarginson and Tomkins come under enormous pressure. It's one thing to be the tip of the spear against an opponent whose defence leaks like a tea-bag. It's quite another thing entirely when you are constantly being smashed on or close to the advantage line. Worse still if you are behind on the scorecard. Given the amount of ball both Wigan centres see it really should come as no surprise that one or both court calamity in tough, physical games. Nerves stretch to breaking point and one of them is bound to try just that bit too hard and throw a pass which just isn't on.
If I were either Sarginson or Tomkins I'd be demanding to know why they are shouldering so much of the burden to win the game whilst the front six are - either by design or just a general lack of quality - twiddling their thumbs.
I certainly don't see Sarginson's current form as a true reflection of his worth. I mean, I think Mark Percival is a fantastic prospect who will doubtless go on to represent his country many times. But you put Percival in that Wigan side and place the same extreme demands on him to perform and he'd likely crumple also. It's too much responsibility for anyone. And both Sarginson and Tomkins look like players who've been crushed under the weight of it for a long and arduous season.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Saints missed more tackle as a percentage of tackles made than Wigan. The problem was Wigans error count of 14...'"
... many of which were a product of - a) Saints not missing tackles and b) Wigan players panicking as the tourniquet tightened.
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| Quote: Cruncher "The rumours about Sarginson predate his colossal brain-fart last Friday and his recent poor defensive displays.
There's been talk about him wanting to leave since very early this season. If that's true, whether it be to the RU (which I would openly disrespect him for) or to the NRL (which I would grudgingly respect him for) - it seems that yet again a player's agent has managed to persuade his client that, despite much evidence to the contrary, the grass is greener elsewhere. And there isn't much Wigan can do about that, other than offer him silly money which in their eyes he may not be worth (which I would hope they wouldn't do).
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Well, only a month ago, taking up his extra year's option was announced, so there can't be too many issues there.
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| Quote: Geoff "Well, only a month ago, taking up his extra year's option was announced, so there can't be too many issues there.'"
I wouldn't count on that. I hope he gets his act together, but the Sarge of 2015 is so far not the Sarge of 2014, IMO.
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| Sarge was getting alot of stick from our fans for the majority of 2014.
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| Quote: Big Steve "Sarge was getting alot of stick from our fans for the majority of 2014.'"
And it was mostly justified. A lot of Sarg's form in 2014 was poor and he didn't look comfortable in either centre position. It was an upward turn of form towards the business end of 2014 and 2 excellent games for England that people seem to use to judge him. He's actually probably been more consistent this year than he was last, but for the defensive howlers that seem to be getting more frequent.
I hope he stays but I don't think it's the end of the world if he moves on.
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