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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I actually feel a bit sorry for Flower and before anybody slates me for that, then just put yourself in his boots for a moment.

Two minutes into one of the biggest games of your career, in front of a huge, passionate crowd, coach's motivational words still ringing in your ears, opposition forwards have already been putting in cheap shots, then you suddenly take a shot in the face from an opposing forearm - Now, in my opinion, the first punch is perfectly acceptable... However, the mist is definitely down and instinctively jump in for another shot - Its cheap, and its nasty, but you can't honestly tell me that Flower knew that Hohaia was out cold?

Red card definite, long ban almost certain and deserved, but his main crime was being lured into the trap of retaliation and being unlucky to pick on a guy who had a glass jaw - Without Hohaia's alarming lack of chin, it would have been 10 minutes in the bin for both of them and, with it, probably a completely different game.'"
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Quote: southern_rhino "the issue is the game is massively tarnished and is being made out to be a thugs sport by the southern media. As you will tell by my user name i now live down here. never heard RL being on the local radio, but it is and it has nothing to do with the result! i have tried for 4 years to change the opinion of my work friends that it isnt just big blokes smashing 7 bells out of each other by showing them clips of absolute skill and passion. however as soon as i came in this morning ive been getting "banter" for that "filthy northern sport" all because of this one incident.

and for this reason it should be a large ban, not sure about being sacked, but bearing in mind ZH got 7 games for calling someone a name you think this should be 1 game more? id also like the ban to take in to account friendlies, be utter crap if he only misses 1 competitive game due to wigan playing 4-5 friendlies'"


I'm guessing they are Union fans? No doubt you can find several eye gauging incidents to counteract that.

That is the problem though I agree. As usual we get press now that something unsavoury has happened.

Personally I think the ban will be time specific as opposed to number of matches.

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Here's my two penny worth:

1. LH tries to impede BF when he's chasing the kick (happens most weeks and sometimes penalised)
2. BF swings an arm and makes contact, probably with his bicep, enough to knock LH off balance (happens most weeks and is seldom penalised)
3. LH chases BF who is then involved with the play as he attempts to collect the ball. As LH gets there though, BF is no longer involved in the play but LH has fired himself up and jumps up with both arms into BF - Not sure it is leading with elbow but more like pushing with forearms. (happens and would normally result in a penalty to BF's team and likely put on report).
4. BF swings punch as LH is standing in front of him, facing him (happens and would usually result in red or penalty to LH team and on report. Not sure a yellow can be given for that foul play)
5. BF stands over barely conscious LH, holds his shirt collar and punches him in the face (not sure what punishment as not seen that before).

I'd imagine that if Flower hadn't have delivered the second punch, he would still have been sent off for the first one but that is open to debate. As the second one is so bad, it makes the first one look acceptable...the rough and tumble of the game. And for those who say you can't expect to make contact with someone and not expect something in return, then surely this can go someway to LH's reason for jumping up at Flower following on from the contact while turning to chase the kick?

Notwithstanding our personal opinions from watching the same thing, it was bad for all parties concerned and portrays our sport in a poor light. I do, however, wish Flower good luck over the next few months and hope he has the chance to get back on with what is a better than average career.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Only one friendly is allowed to be counted in in the ban.

You as a Leeds supporter should know that as DannY McGuire has used it in the past.

As for the Flower incident, read todays League Weekly Grand Final supplement (page 11) by Stuart Cummings. It makes very interesting reading.'"


Can you summarise it for those outside the LW circulation area?

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Quote: Conroy "Personally I think the ban will be time specific as opposed to number of matches.'"


I think they'll do that purely because it will look like a more severe punishment.

Without working out the specifics, an 8 month ban will be the same as a 10-12 game ban.

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Charged with Grade F. Suggest we close this and move to the other to stop duplication, thanks.

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