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There's a topic on the VT about English hookers. Fans of other clubs clearly don't rate (don't like) him.

I stated that I wouldn't swap him for any other English hooker. People on there are saying the likes of Lunt, Hodgson and Houghton are better than McIlorum.

Roby and Clarke are in the top three with McIlorum imo.

For me Roby isn't the threat he once was and I don't fear him like I once did, although he is still a top quality player.

Clarke has the x-factor and does the eye catching stuff but I haven't seen enough of him to judge his all round game.

Would any Wigan fan swap Micky Mac for any other English hooker? If yes, who would you swap him for and why?

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Quote: Albion "The way you keep using Roby as a benchmark to decide whether MM has has a good game or not shows how highly you rate him.

Why don't you just enjoy MM in his own right?'"


Because your lot insist on telling us hes the best in the league

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Albion "The way you keep using Roby as a benchmark to decide whether MM has has a good game or not shows how highly you rate him.

Why don't you just enjoy MM in his own right?'"


hmmm. I think you're missing the point that Roby is the benchmark for modern British hookers.

Imagine there was another world class British LF. The natural thing to do would be to compare him with Lockers, who has been the dominant player in this position in SL for some time.

I don't think any Wigan fan has an issue with enjoying MM in his own right. Performances like the one he put in against Leeds the other week will be talked about for years to come, like Lockers turning up on one leg at the last GF and still making a massive contribution or Farrell's performance against Leeds in the game where he broke his nose. MM's was the latest in a long line of leadership performances that make you proud to be a Wigan fan.

And anyway, how could anyone not enjoy watching a player who can bully the Leeds bully boys? Even Peacock looked rattled. It was fantastic!

When MM plays like that, it's more enjoyable than it was watching a Tomkins or Offiah score a sensational hatrick of tries.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Good post. Nice to see an air of reality and sensibility on this thread.

All this stuff about him "owning" Roby is so cringeworthy.'"


Welcome back. Great to have you. I always enjoy your posts.

Tell me though, is MM not the kind of player you need? The performance against Hudds was a bit better but the problem is you don't have many leaders in the side or any players who can intimidate or unsettle the opposition. I suspect MM would be a great signing for you (not that that is going to happen!).

Your team really needs a player like him and I'm surprised you don't see this. MM's leadership, aggression and physicality are hugely important to us. He's now getting to the peak of his career and I think is becoming a genuinely world class player. He's far from being a limited player, in fact he has some very special qualities, as the Leeds pack found out again the other week.

Anyway, welcome back to the best board on the forum.

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Quote: Deano G "hmmm. I think you're missing the point that Roby is the benchmark for modern British hookers.

Imagine there was another world class British LF. The natural thing to do would be to compare him with Lockers, who has been the dominant player in this position in SL for some time.

I don't think any Wigan fan has an issue with enjoying MM in his own right. Performances like the one he put in against Leeds the other week will be talked about for years to come, like Lockers turning up on one leg at the last GF and still making a massive contribution or Farrell's performance against Leeds in the game where he broke his nose. MM's was the latest in a long line of leadership performances that make you proud to be a Wigan fan.

And anyway, how could anyone not enjoy watching a player who can bully the Leeds bully boys? Even Peacock looked rattled. It was fantastic!

When MM plays like that, it's more enjoyable than it was watching a Tomkins or Offiah score a sensational hatrick of tries.'"


Good response.

Of course we would love a MM type player in our team. We certainly need it because we are just a group of nice fellas.

Although I'd play MM in his best position: loose forward.

On a side note. I keep hearing how Roby is 'shot' and he's a 'has been'. I'm not sure why really. Yes he's carried us since KC retired, but he showed his class in the position during the World Cup. He was outstanding.

Last year for us he was injured. This year he hasn't been at his best but he's still playing above the standard of any other hooker in the league. Our forwards are being pummelled so I don't know how you expect your hooker to perform.

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Quote: Albion "Good response.

Of course we would love a MM type player in our team. We certainly need it because we are just a group of nice fellas.

Although I'd play MM in his best position

I wouldn't say Roby is shot or a has been. I think having to do as much work as he has to do at Saints these days (50 tackles in the Wire game!) has taken a toll on him, whether that is permanent or if he came to a club like Wigan (which is also not going to happen!) or Leeds he would get back to his best, I don't know.

The fact is that despite this he remains a great player, he's just not playing at quite the level he was a few years ago. Unsurprising when he seems to be doing far more than his fair share of work.

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