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| If you look for errors, every player comes up with them at some point.
I think Tomkins distribution was really good. Some of the runs need better timing and that will come but you can't just lay that on Tomkins.
I thought it was clear that his defensive task was to harass and clamp the ball or come in as third man as often as he could, as putting on big hits and getting injured would not be good and everyone would soon be ripping him to bits as to why he was so reckless. I think that he has a great future here at Wigan and hope that he stays and develops to the potential that he has shown.
I am sorry but I really don't rate Powell at 9, he is probably the most natural 6 we have had for years, but should never get picked at 9 in front of a fit Tomkins.
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| I really don't understand what some of you have against Logan.
To suggest that Williams was better than him last night was absolutely laughable as most of Williams' passes were head hight or behind the players, which to me is poor considering he is a half-back. Logan was involved in a lot of tackles, and didnt miss many, yes he doesn't dominate the tackle, but not all players do, Liam Farrell didn't/doesn't, Thornley doesn't but they don't get called for it.
No he is not world-class, but he is still only 21, McIlorum wasn't the great player he is now when he was 21. And Logan's distribution was pretty good last night, better than Williams', and probably no worse than McIlorum's. The point I do agree with is his decision making isn't great yet as he doesn't scoot enough from dummy half and attack the line.
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| Had a good game last night. His delivery was spot on for the most part. Not perfect by any means, but then, who is? Thought this showed when Williams came on whose delivery from dummy half isn't nearly as good.
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| Quote JWarriors="JWarriors"
No he is not world-class, but he is still only 21, McIlorum wasn't the great player he is now when he was 21. And Logan's distribution was pretty good last night, better than Williams', and probably no worse than McIlorum's. '"
Spot on. MM had plenty of critics at the same stage in his career, and I can think of few, if any hookers who are the finished article at 21 years of age. OK he's not as aggressive in defence as MM, but on the other hand he's not the penalty machine that MM is.
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| I was impressed with Hodgson for KR, if Wigan were looking at a hooker I'd be tempted to go for him!
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| If we are looking for a back up hooker look no further than Daryl Clark at Castleford.
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| 47 tackles from Logan yesterday, almost 50% more than any other Wigan player.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"47 tackles from Logan yesterday, almost 50% more than any other Wigan player.'"
If you were a Rovers forward you'd want to run at Tomkins all night long. It seems that's exactly what they did.
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"If you were a Rovers forward you'd want to run at Tomkins all night long. It seems that's exactly what they did.'"
As you know I'm not his biggest fan, but I thought he went o.k. on Friday.
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| during and immediately after the match my opinion of Tomkins' performance was pretty shoddy, but having read all of these comments I can see the truth in the arguments in his favour too...
however, he has had 3 seasons or so now working with the likes of MM, TL and MH who are all great hookers in my opinion on their day, but Logan doesn't seem to be picking up off them and never has shown any real potential. he has had many chances to prove his worth but in fairness he hasn't had a good run of games either. Being in for 3 games is all well and good due to a ban but as soon as MM is available again he'll be back in the doldrums and that can't help his progression.
I honestly can't see where he is going to fit in the team over the next few years and as many have said on here, fair play to him, but he just hasn't got enough for Wigan, perhaps even a few lesser teams.
he suffers from being a "Tomkins" yes, but I have always argued that joel was the most talented and had the most potential out of the three anyway. and whether he was a Tomkins or not my opinion of him wouldn't be any different.
hopefully he can put in a couple of good performances but I can't see him shining against Wire - I'd love it to happen though!!
I'm happy to get behind him and give him a chance, I'm just doubtful he can deliver.
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| Quote WiganBurt="WiganBurt"during and immediately after the match my opinion of Tomkins' performance was pretty shoddy, but having read all of these comments I can see the truth in the arguments in his favour too...
however, he has had 3 seasons or so now working with the likes of MM, TL and MH who are all great hookers in my opinion on their day, but Logan doesn't seem to be picking up off them and never has shown any real potential. he has had many chances to prove his worth but in fairness he hasn't had a good run of games either. Being in for 3 games is all well and good due to a ban but as soon as MM is available again he'll be back in the doldrums and that can't help his progression.
I honestly can't see where he is going to fit in the team over the next few years and as many have said on here, fair play to him, but he just hasn't got enough for Wigan, perhaps even a few lesser teams.
he suffers from being a "Tomkins" yes, but I have always argued that joel was the most talented and had the most potential out of the three anyway. and whether he was a Tomkins or not my opinion of him wouldn't be any different.
hopefully he can put in a couple of good performances but=#FF0000 I can't see him shining against Wire - I'd love it to happen though!!
I'm happy to get behind him and give him a chance, I'm just doubtful he can deliver.'"
He had a superb game there last year, probably his best for Wigan.
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