Yep,

And for people to actually think the club is out of order is laughable.

You've been outed as a total phony.

You dismiss the ludicrous and OTT manner in which Gary Connolly was abused by the Saints fans because you personally, or so you say, didn't have a problem with him (and you've even got the facts of his departure wrong). At the same time, you criticise the Wigan fans for giving bad-apple Hock a hero's welcome, even though lots of them didn't, and even though your own crowd rarely had a bad word to say in public about an equal bad apple - Sean Long - to the point where they applauded their club for not getting rid of him.

Next time you come trolling, I'd think more carefully about your angle of attack.

Best forward in SL by a long way IMO.......big loss and Widnes have got a cracking player.

Really!

Its hard to argue with that indepth response

1/10 must try harder.

Don't generally agree with Saints fans but in all honesty hes pretty much on the money! 90% of our fans have been obsessed with Hock for a long time and the Hock love in with half of them have is a joke!

It was pathetic when he returned from his drugs ban and got a standing ovation - if thats not treating like a hero then what is - Still think til today thats a joke and anyone who did this was pathetic IMO!

Add to that all the wiganers who have raved 'best 2nd row in SL / Best in the world' Rubbish for years when he's nothing but!

Fact is for every bit of brilliance hock ever did, he cancelled it out with stupid errors, daft offloads and giving away penalties. If anything he's only ever been an average SR who, on his day, had the ability to perform at a high level. The demi-god treatement he's receievd from some of our fans for years is a joke and at least now some have woken up and smelt the coffee!

I'm completely comfortable with you believing that

Of course you are. You've no other option.

He's a handy player a good one, but best forward in SL?

Before his ban, he did not prevent Wigan flirting with relegation, it took the best forward in SL at the time to turn that around, along with Noble.

He has been playing in one of the best Wigan sides for a good 10 years, so he is going to look good, and I do think he is a good player.

But his true test will be at Widnes, if he still shows up and does the hard work, then all power to him. However, at Wigan (and I don't watch every match they play) , but he seamed to come on after the hard yards where done, by the rest of a quality pack.

I recall when we played Warrington last season, Sia came on after 20 minutes and totally ripped into Warrington, he was the talk of the game afterwards. Yet the other players had to soak up alot of hits for him to be able to do that. When Sia plays from the start, he is still effective and puts in big hits, but it's not as easy to walk through people.

Best in SL I think you could argue with Ellis, Manu etc, there are alot of candidates out there for best SR, never mind best Forward?

I have other options, of course I do. Just none that I intend to make use of just to please some on here (namely the bitter ones that haven't got a clue what has gone on and are just dying to know so spend all their time dismissing any other peoples opinions as if it didn't come from them it can't possibly be true).................