that its all wigans fault most likely

Before I go on let me say based on the press release Hock doesn't have a leg to stand on.

However there are always two sides to every story and a carefully worded statement to the press from one side won't give it.

He refused to train. Why? He wanted a pay rise? Was he on a pittance before? And so on. Basically were all his demands unreasonable based on the circumstances at the time? We have been told what his demands were but not why he made them.

I mean if IL was able to say "Hock was the highest paid player a the club but demanded a pay rise" then that would sound unreasonable but he could not say that. If on the other hand he was on an absolute pittance using the fact he asked for a pay rise against him in a press release is a bit naughty - even if it is if very astute.

In short the demands all look unreasonable if you assume everything was hunky-dory before he made them.

On balance I think the club is probably in the right but the hatchet job it has done on Hock is a good'un.

One mans Pittance could be another mans fortune?
I'd happily swap his wages for mine!

Go and have a read. The thread is much the same as this one with most now turning on Hock and calling him all the names under the sun, from the safety of a keyboard of course, a few with a more reasoned approach to it all and one or two who say it's not really Hock's fault.

One interesting twist on there is that if Hock or CPWigan tells anyone what happened, it'll put their life in danger.

Some of it has been edited by mods but it's pretty much the same as what 'Last Son of Wigan' has been saying.

While we're talking ifs, buts and maybes ... IF this is true, perhaps he was on less than we'd expect as part of his parole after the drugs episode. In which case, it's still Gareth who's the naughty boy for not being able to take his punishment. Of course, it's still a big IF.

The way the squad seems to have diminished in talent from last season it might not take to long for most S/L teams to be considered as our main rivals.

Just to add. I've heard a 3rd party mentioned in the rumours leading up to this and if it is true then Hock could well do with being a little further away than Widnes. It's also related to the same rumours involving Gleeson and I think Tickle at the time of his departure.

I don't take a paycut for anyone.

Why when I can get someone else to do it for me?

Good luck with that one, then, Widnes.

Unless it's not true, of course.

As I said, it's just something I heard before Christmas about the people who he was in bother with. I can see it as a reason he wanted to go to Aus but I can't see how Shaun Wane gets tied up in it and it ends up as his fault Hock is leaving.

As you say, it could all be untrue and more than likely is. Basically any renowned hard/bad lad get's in trouble in Wigan and they are invariably linked to this 3rd party wanting to break their legs, or arm in Terry Newton's case, rumoured, allegedly etc, etc...