My Plan B would be to tell Wane to shut the hell up and stop piling so much pressure on the players throughout the season.

i think we looked below par fitness wise even before we take into account the amount of defence we had to put in. for me when it comes to the really big games that we regards as "must win", whether in knockout rugby or in the league, we just dont have the bottle and desire to go through and execute because Wane treats every game like a final.

the season, both physically and mentally is now catching up on us and is definitely taking its toll. it has shown ever since the Leeds CC Semi Final, if not before. also, why keep jack on the bench until the 70th minute?? its like Madge all over again!

i do think we will finish top but unless we can get some inspiration from a returning (AND FIT!) richards and tommy then i'd bank on another loss to saints or catalans in the playoffs as per usual.

A good post and I understand your point, but in saying that, if Wire lose to London this week does that still make them the best team in SL or would that be London because they have had a recent run of good form. Games will be affected by many things, injuries, suspension and rotation. Wigan have shown that form may be transient, only at the end of the season will we know which team was the most competent, till then it’s just snap shots of form.

taking carries into account

warrington top 3 meter makers (ratch excluded as he is the anomaly due to length field try)

westwood - 20 carries totaling 157m gain = average 7.85m per carry
hill -15 carries totaling 122m gain = average 8.1m per carry
morley - 14 carries totaling 110m gain = average 7.85m per carry

wigan top 3 meter makers

lima - 16 carries totaling 92m gain = average 5.75m per carry
o'loughlin - 18 carries totaling 74m gain = average 4.1m per carry
hansen - 11 carries totaling 62m gain = average 5.6m per carry

interestingly though i only used forwards but 4 0f the top 8 top meter makers for wigan are backs but i think that just shows the way that the warrington kicking game pinned you back as they will be kick return meters.

London aren't in the top 2, Wigan and Wire are. Over the course of the season we gain an impression who has performed the best via league positions.
1st played 2nd, 2nd dominated 1st. I don't think being in the top two now is simply a snap shot in of form considering we are now in Aug.

Now seriously, who do you think are the top two team in SL? Do you think perhaps London? Do you honestly think London have a chance of winning the league or GF?

Please. don't try to debate for the sake of debating. This is getting a little silly now.

Please do not take offence when none was meant. I only expanded your comments to show how another point of view could be put to your words. Debate is what these forums are for, you should not expect to have your say and then ask for others to accept it without comment, that’s not what it’s all about, and anyway I only passed comment once. Again I was not stirring it, or trying to be offensive, and after all I did say it was a good post in the first place