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The forward pass is irrelevant , Warrington were by far the better team . We never looked like winning that game
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[color=#FF0000:3s5hr9kj]Have you noticed, you can never find a radical priest when you need one.[/color:3s5hr9kj]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_63644.jpg |
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| Quote: Ian 77 Redux "Here it is (albeit that the game is goverened by laws, not rules)
passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.
It doesn't matter if the ball travels forward. It matters if it was passed forward. You might not like it, it may fry your brain, but it's a fact. Now, chances are, if the ball travels forwards the ball was passed forward but it's not a pre-requisite.'"
“Momentum rule” is Stevo’s term NOT MINE and not wishing to be rude, but within the contexts of the argument about a forward pass, what does it matter if “HE” uses the wrong word, be it rule, or law I’m sorry but this point just seems to be splitting a hair to no purpose. IF A BALL LEAVES THE PASSER HANDS IN FRONT OF THOSE HANDS, IT IS A FORWARD PASS. It doesn’t matter where the bloke who catches is! In the stand, in the dressing room or on the moon, because by then the game should have been stopped for an infringement. | | |
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Today the top two teams in SL played. One dominated the other setting the benchmark for the league. Previous to that they beat Saints another top contender. I think it would be unusual to watch both games and consider past history more prevalent to recent performances.'"
A good post and I understand your point, but in saying that, if Wire lose to London this week does that still make them the best team in SL or would that be London because they have had a recent run of good form. Games will be affected by many things, injuries, suspension and rotation. Wigan have shown that form may be transient, only at the end of the season will we know which team was the most competent, till then it’s just snap shots of form. | | |
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| Quote: Geoff "Very true, and what most of us have been saying. Having said that, those stats doesn't take number of carries into account, and the lack of possession we had (due to our own mistakes) meant yours got way more carries than ours. I was impressed with Hill, though - you've got a good one there.'"
taking carries into account
warrington top 3 meter makers (ratch excluded as he is the anomaly due to length field try)
westwood - 20 carries totaling 157m gain = average 7.85m per carry
hill -15 carries totaling 122m gain = average 8.1m per carry
morley - 14 carries totaling 110m gain = average 7.85m per carry
wigan top 3 meter makers
lima - 16 carries totaling 92m gain = average 5.75m per carry
o'loughlin - 18 carries totaling 74m gain = average 4.1m per carry
hansen - 11 carries totaling 62m gain = average 5.6m per carry
interestingly though i only used forwards but 4 0f the top 8 top meter makers for wigan are backs but i think that just shows the way that the warrington kicking game pinned you back as they will be kick return meters. | | | |
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| Quote: pies-r-us "A good post and I understand your point, but in saying that, if Wire lose to London this week does that still make them the best team in SL or would that be London because they have had a recent run of good form. Games will be affected by many things, injuries, suspension and rotation. Wigan have shown that form may be transient, only at the end of the season will we know which team was the most competent, till then it’s just snap shots of form.'"
London aren't in the top 2, Wigan and Wire are. Over the course of the season we gain an impression who has performed the best via league positions.
1st played 2nd, 2nd dominated 1st. I don't think being in the top two now is simply a snap shot in of form considering we are now in Aug.
Now seriously, who do you think are the top two team in SL? Do you think perhaps London? Do you honestly think London have a chance of winning the league or GF?
Please. don't try to debate for the sake of debating. This is getting a little silly now. | | |
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "London aren't in the top 2, Wigan and Wire are. Over the course of the season we gain an impression who has performed the best via league positions.
1st played 2nd, 2nd dominated 1st. I don't think being in the top two now is simply a snap shot in of form considering we are now in Aug.
Now seriously, who do you think are the top two team in SL? Do you think perhaps London? Do you honestly think London have a chance of winning the league or GF?
Please. don't try to debate for the sake of debating. This is getting a little silly now.'"
Please do not take offence when none was meant. I only expanded your comments to show how another point of view could be put to your words. Debate is what these forums are for, you should not expect to have your say and then ask for others to accept it without comment, that’s not what it’s all about, and anyway I only passed comment once. Again I was not stirring it, or trying to be offensive, and after all I did say it was a good post in the first place | | | |
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