I posted on another thread, what had happened on Friday stating that it was people from Wigan who had caused the bother. It started in another pub in bridge st before the game had finished, They had ordered a lot of taxis from the stork at billinge, at half time not sure if thats where they were from or had been on a pub crawl. I spoke to one of the taxi drivers who brought some of them, he said it was obvious they were not rugby fans and were looking for trouble, then they went to the sefton, where by this time the game had ended and was then full of both fans, thats when it kicked off. Nothing to do with St Helens being rough or the sefton being rough, all towns have rough parts. As for someone saying his uncle was the manager, load of rubbish, I know the manager very well and can assure you that he is not old enough to have a nephew old enough to go in the sefton. Like I said in another thread not rugby fans, we had a geat day out so stop all the slagging off it doesnt help

Seems to contradict Zinsers view....

they played down the damage, because they dont want any repeat of it when we play at yours, we have idiots as well, who are only to willing to spoil things for most of us who are happy with the friendly banter between the fans.

It reminds us of one too. I thought the Council's choice of grey granite from China was spot on as an expression of their neo-communist ideals and complete lack of imagination or sympathy for ordinary people who would really like a pleasant town centre, free from drunks, druggies, scousers on the make and miserable grey granite that looks dirty the minute someone spits on it (which they do, frequently).

Brilliant.

saintsfan, where is all this grey granite you post about