i do consider it a shock seen as we have beat saints 3 times and drawn with them once this season... we have only been properly beaten by warrington and id be dissapointed if we didnt still make it to the grand final

We looked to have ran out of steam! Cant see us lifting to win 3 on the bounce now!

Not sure we have done anything wrong with resting players all have had time off. The number of games added to our inability to kill teams off during the season resulting in to many close games!
Wire have blown teams away and made their games far easier!
Seems like its Wires to lose now has I cant see Leeds, Cats or Saints being good enough to match wire and we certainly dont look upto it at the moment!

There's no way that Wire will pick Wigan for the Clubcall. If that were to happen it would simply give Wigan a reason to raise their game. Wire will pick the lowest ranked side left in the competition.

You've still got every chance IMO. As a Leeds fan I've seen us put in poor performances to lose in qualifiers but play very differently in the subsequent eliminator. You've just taken this week off instead of next.

As for Deacon, he's never good behind a non-dominant pack, hence his apparently remarkable renaissance when he left the Bulls for yourselves. My prediction is that next week your pack will perform better and so will he.

The only good thing about losing yesterday is if we are to win the grand final we now face 3 teams that we lost our last games against and we owe them all a beating. Theres a bit of motivation there and the players also realise its now sudden death. Im hoping it will galvanise the team and give them the kick up the backside they have needed since half time at Wembley.

The missed tackle against lomax wasn't good, but it happens (I don't hear anyone having a go at Tomkins for the one on one against Wellens for the first try and he was certainly close enough to make the tackle around the legs to try and prevent the try). The one for the McCarthy try was just a case of committing himself as the ball was passed.

Should perhaps note his twenty metre chase to tackle (I think) Makinson one on one behind the line for a drop out in that five minute spell at end of first half; his half break late in the second half forcing work from the opposition; plenty of good other tackles and his hard work throughout the game, not just when Wigan were having a purple patch...

A good game from Farrell today and that kind of attitude counts for a few extra percent in a player's performance....something that others could have done with.