When he takes the ball in does he stop waiting for the tackle?
Is he dropping the ball?
Is he in hiding when the opposition props are coming down the middle?
Is he continually giving penalties away because he's too laboured getting away from the tackle?

If you can answer yes to most or all of the above then carry on whinging, if it's a no then let him carry on finding his feet in a different country with a different style of game.

Compare Lima's workrate in terms of hitups and tackles to Feka during their respective spells on the field and you can be sure he's a vast improvement.

He'll get better as well, I'm very confident about that.

If you answer yes to all those then, hello Ryan Bailey

Lima is not an impact prop in the mold of Feka, Anderson he is a solid player who does a lot of hard graft and can play for longer than 20 min sessions. The Wigan pack is the hardest working in SL the impact player could be Hock if he returns to first team action

i think if it's anything like last seasons games. and wire need the ball back you know morley gonna step up and try force a knock on (i know hansen didn't drop the ball , fair play to him) but can you say the same about lima? i don't know.

On that basis i am still baffled why we are only getting similar game time out of lima as we did out of feka ?

If you went back through the loast 40 years you would be amazed at the number of Wiganers who have given Warrington fantastic service.

On that basis i am still baffled why we are only getting similar game time out of lima as we did out of feka ?

I have yet to see Lima struggling to get back in the line, Feka had a run this way sign printed on his ar*e, easy metres for any quick hooker Higham, Roby etc. He may get more game time against the bigger less mobile Wire front two Morley and Carvell

Maybe Lima was signed too soon, the Melbourne players were signed before the end of season run and I am sure that the coaching team were suprised at how well the young forwards aquitted themselves in the back end of 2010.

Too true, in recent times Parry Gordon and Mike Gregory spring to mind.

If we hadnt signed Lima then Fielden got injured for 4 months people would have been screaming that we needed another prop. Lima is a top class acquisition to the squad who has plenty of NRL and international experience and give him time and he will show us what he can do, hopefully tomorrow night for one! With Coley set to retire, Fielden injured, Preccy and Mossop playing out of their skin and Davies and Crosby waiting for an opportnity I think we currently have an excellent blend of youth and experience in our front row.