He went to Wigan at the wrong time and thanks to Mr Noble giving him no game time his career has never been the same as it was when he was at Leeds.

I don't think that's the case. I agree that if they were from Wigan they wouldn't get anywhere near the same amount of jip but I don't think skin colour comes into it. If you want to talk non-rugby reasons for fans not liking Karl Pryce I'd point to his brother first.

Very true. When you also realise who Calderwood's centres were as well compared to who Richards and Goulding have inside them now Calderwood was on a hiding to nothing.

Dave

so if it takes one to know one but you state you arent thick is that actually a compliment to me?

Offiah was a great winger ! But I agree with the Calderwoods fans on here, Offiah had Andrew Farrar, Gene Miles, Dean Bell, Joe Lydon, Gary Connolly, Tuigamla to name a few inside him. If Calderwood had these guys inside him, TRY TIME !

Before people jump on his defence, Offiah let tries in every week however for every try he let in he scored 2. Like I say great winger. Calderwood was no different to the likes of David Meyers ( rip ) Mark Preston etc. Raw pace !

I think that with Karl people simply look at the size of him and see his potential, but its frustrating that he hasnt yet really developed into the player people think he can be - i don't think he did at all bad when he was given his chance in 2010 and hopefully he can kick on and improve next season.

As for Calderwood and a number of other players that played for Wigan in 2006 they lacked confidence and Calderwood expecially just didnt get the same opportunities that he did playing in a strong Leeds side.