As has been pointed out - We *DON'T* slow the PTB with wrestling tactics.

What we actually do is *whilst we are tackling* (i.e. Still stood up), we get 3 men involved and ensure that more often than not, we finish in a "dominant tackle" (making sure the grounded player lands flat on his back).

This gives us additional time to get up, as this is part of the rules.

Additionally, as soon as the ref shouts "Held", we get up immediately or get penalised.

The thing that is annoying me slightly this year is that the opposing teams are not being penalised as often as Wigan for lying on, despite the fact that we actually get up faster on average than they do.

Unfortunately, this is the result of so many out-classed coached whining about our "drying paint" style of defence.

All I can say is "Fook 'em". Let them get their own houses in order, rather than hoping that the ref will give their team a chance by penalising Wigan out of the game for perceived (but non-existant) lying-on.

Wigan do the same thing as many other SL and NRL teams currently do. Slow the PTB down to slow the oppositions momentum and gain a defensive advantage. When we hold down for too long, we are penalised, as are anyone else, and that should be reflected in our overall season penalty count.

I don't agree with the way this is worded and that's the point we should be trying to make. I agree with the first part, all teams SL and NRL do TRY to do the same thing,slow opposition momentum. Some get it wrong Hull at our place for one. The "slow the play the ball" is the bit that to me is wrong. Any team slowing the actual play the ball should and often are penalised, the wrestle is nothing to do with this if done correctly, and I can not see how it could be interpreted within the present rules any different. This is what we are not doing or at least no more than in the past.
We are slowing the point of completion down........... the point the ref calls held, normally at that point depending on the tackled players position the Ref will say move within a few seconds, it is at that point and that point only that you can be penalised for slowing the play the ball. Only other one could be if the player hits the deck face down and is turned after elbow contact, It's this particular action that's led to the "Chicken wing" and should be stamped out.
I think Madge has come across from the team who are at the forefront in this. Sadly it looks like a lot of coaches over here are either sour or just moaning to cover their inept training. To prove this we had the most successful SL coach training our players(the same players) over the last three years. While we may not win anything it's beeN a lot better to watch us this season, in fact I would say I have had more value out of my season ticket now than in the last three years put together.

esp as Cullen pointed out before we had done any SO CALLED WRESTLING in the first 90 seconds john kear go back to coaching school as you are clearly not up to it

It's the easiest thing in the world to do, blame another team for your own teams shortfall. Did anyone ask John Kear or any other SL coach why their team didn't throw the ball about like Wigan did, anyone can jump on a bandwagon to start moaning...can anyone remember if Steve McNamara came on tv bemoaning the Wigan tatics after they turned us over????