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| Without a viable and vibrant international competition with a competitive national side this game is in danger of dying on its @r$e.
The big money to sports bodies these days is in international competition, rugby union has known this for years and used that as a means of subsidising its teams, especially in their pretend amateur days, to keep their clubs alive.
Cricket wouldn't survive at all witout international cricket to fund the rest of the game.
If you put your club before internationals then you are voting for the slow death of rugby league as a fully professional sport.
Give me ANY international victory over any club game anytime.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Ed I Tackle "Without a viable and vibrant international competition with a competitive national side this game is in danger of dying on its @r$e.
The big money to sports bodies these days is in international competition, rugby union has known this for years and used that as a means of subsidising its teams, especially in their pretend amateur days, to keep their clubs alive.
Cricket wouldn't survive at all witout international cricket to fund the rest of the game.
If you put your club before internationals then you are voting for the slow death of rugby league as a fully professional sport.
Give me ANY international victory over any club game anytime.'"
That is 100% correct. We need a strong and vibrant International competition.
The other thing it does is to give kids a greater appreciation of the game and a desire to get to the top.
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[quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg |
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| Quote: inside_man "i think going off the history and current state of the academy and reserves teams its showing that the best young talent is in the wigan area, argue as you want but between wigan, saints and leeds is split the majority of the best youth, mainly wigan out of the 3.
It would quite likely benefit England were wigan to have a strong team because in the age of the salary cap it would mean that a lot of the team would be through the academy and hence eligable for England.
Overall super league has to become stronger, but i think a big part in this happening on the international scene is wigan becoming strong because they have the potential with the setup and youth to be up there challenging at the top if managed correctly/'"
I wont argue that the talent is in the area and that there are only a few good youth set-ups, but that’s the problem. There needs to be a far better youth set up throughout Super league. Wigan have had many young players go through the ranks and then leave, so i dont see how just a strong Wigan would suddenly improve the England team. Many teams have the potential to produce youth, but there just isn’t enough investment in it throughout the league and the RFL.
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "I wont argue that the talent is in the area and that there are only a few good youth set-ups, but that’s the problem. There needs to be a far better youth set up throughout Super league. Wigan have had many young players go through the ranks and then leave, so i dont see how just a strong Wigan would suddenly improve the England team. Many teams have the potential to produce youth, but there just isn’t enough investment in it throughout the league and the RFL.'"
If we are talking long term I agree, but for the 2013 World Cup then we need a strong Wigan converting these juniors as we now seem to be capable of doing.
I would also add a strong league also needs a strong Wigan for the same reason ie getting quality young players into the system.
i would say short term next 10 years of so England need a strong Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Bradford, they also need to build the league and development structure but this is not going to happen in this timescale.
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| Personally I don't think it's possible to choose between the two.
Wigan - our hometown and a club the vast majority of us have followed since our birth.
England - our country, one we've lived in all our lives and one our elders have had to bloody fight for and thus will support regardless of what sport.
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[quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg |
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "Personally I don't think it's possible to choose between the two.
Wigan - our hometown and a club the vast majority of us have followed since our birth.
England - our country, one we've lived in all our lives and one our elders have had to bloody fight for and thus will support regardless of what sport.'"
Thing is, we dont have to choose between the 2, we have the league season and once we've finished with that we get the Internationals. Apart from the 1 mid season game, the International program doesnt clash, so we can have both ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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