I was going to kick off with you and say you are talking a lot of tosh, but TBH you do have a point.

Hock has been caught taking a banned substance, many others do and wouldn't suffer the disgrace that he is going to. You use the analogy of using a mobile and driving which has the potential for far more horrific consequences, but ones that are not guaranteed by driving and using a mobile, it can only be a contributing factor, so I'm not sure its a good analogy.

Hock has done something silly. He will suffer the consequences. But no-one has died and his actions, as far as any actions do, impact him more than anyone else.

Our sportmen are fallible and generally reflect wider society for better and worse. We want them to be better, to be noble, to be role models, but perhaps this is unfair to expect and I am sure that many players don't want this burden. Maybe our hunger for them to be better, to be more noble, is a reflection of our own inadequacies.

Wow, that was deep.

The second test was on 30th June, the results available about a week later. Do keep up this has been mentioned numerous times already.

Dave

My understanding is that both samples are taken at the same time? One is tested and the other sample stored. If the test is positive or inconclusive on the first sample the second sample is then tested? The results of the second sample where then due on the 30th June.

It would not make sense to take a sample on the 5th June, it then comes back positive and you have your second sample 25 days later, if this is the case then I think you can virtually guarentee that the second sample will be negative.

What a silly sausage!

This is theUK Sports drugs policybefore sample B is also tested. The athlete or their representative is entitled to be present at the unsealing and testing of the second sample. If this too is positive, the relevant sporting organisations are notified whose responsibility it is to decide what penalties or bans are to be imposed'.

Note the bit in bold. Before the second sample is tested the athlete is notified so this is only opened and tested after the notification. The official press release says Wigan were notified on 22nd June.

My understanind is that the 2nd sample was opened and tested on 30th June, results to follow.

Dave

Talk about telling people to keep up. All this info was in the post I made pages back giving the link to WADA testing info leaflet.