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start of the match i was dreading, 4 forwards on the bench no backs phil bailey was poor, there is only feka who can make good yards at prop, riddell was totally outplayed by an onform mcilurum.
what kind of coach leaves the super leagues top scorer out aswell as our most creative influence in sammy tomkins, when noble is ommiting players who are on form and replacing them with slow and inconsistent players, its time his role came into question.
okay maybe ainscough's defence is suspect but how many times did the ball get to the wings. not that often and amos roberts is scared to run forwards at the opposition.
gone are the days of the speed kings, jay robinson and martin offiah, we have a player who scores tries regulary and he is'nt in the squad icon_confused.gif:

lets just hope for an improvement next week

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The combination of Smith, Sam and Tommy with either riddel or mcillorum is the best approach.

I think Smith and Sam alongside him gives us an extra dimension as we have a very good runner and a very good passer of the ball and gives the opposition defence extra problems to deal with.

We are a more dangerous team with the above combo so that would be my preferred choice going forward.

The choice has to be between McIllorum or Piggy. I still have reservations about McIllorums distribution - there were a number of passes against wakefield for example that were forward and not picked up by the ref, however for his attitude and defence then i'd have him in first, leaving the more creative work to the above 3 backs.

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Quote: Tricky Dicky "Noble makes a statement in an interview last week that hints he will be givinbg him a run out soon.'"


if this is true and Pryce plays i will be having a run out too !!!

straight out the ground !

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Quote: DaveO " What question? I have not twisted anything. Show me where I have. '"


The question where i asked you for proof had Tomkins and Ainscough played we would of won but as usual you write loads of paragraphs twisting the words in the hope that the original question put to you will be forgotten.



Quote: DaveO "You were prepared to speculate about the outcome in your previous post. You said

Yes i was giving you an example of why you cannot say Noble was right or wrong not to play them. I notice you cut out the last part where i said we may of won or we may of lost,who knows? More evidence that you like to twist peoples words to suit your argument.

Quote: DaveO "So that is going to be your line from now on if a player is absent? You are never going to speculate that if for example Lockers is injured and we lose a game, we may have won if we had the benefit of his defence, because he could have missed tackles or dropped the ball? '"


What are you talking about at all. How would we win a game if Lockers missed tackles or dropped the ball. That just does not make any sense whatsoever.



Quote: DaveO "No I don't which I thought I explained in the previous post. It's very simple, our attack has looked better with Tomkins in the side than it did on Friday. On Friday without him it looked like it did v Wakey on the first game of the season.

It is therefore not unreasonable to conclude his absence is a reason why it did look worse than when he was in the side. '"


Your argument was not that. Your argument was a typical Noble bashing for not playing him and Ainscough. You implied that had those 2 played we would of won which is nothing but speculation.

Quote: DaveO " It's just simple logic. We were worse on attack than the week before, so you ask yourself what changed? Is this such a hard concept to grasp? '"


It seems the hardest concept for you to grasp is that it was monsoon conditions on Friday. What did you expect to see Dave flowing ball movement from side to side in those conditions?

Quote: DaveO "It is not as you keep saying something I am putting forward as concrete proof we would have won but an opinion our attack would have been better with him in the side and I have given my reasons why I think that. '"


So you finally admit theres just as much chance we would of lost the game had those 2 played?

Quote: DaveO " Now its pretty clear you do not agree with this line of thinking. Why not? Is it because of this again?

No the reason i do not agree with you is because-

1.the weather meant it was always going to be a scrap
2.you are speculating what might of happened yet the way you started off was in typical anti-Noble fashion trying to point out he got it wrong and you got it right.


Quote: DaveO " Is that why? If so I will say again you have no reason to think that. You may as well state we would have lost because had they played they would have both got sent off. I on the other hand can point to games we played with them in the side where our attack was better so if you can explain to me why it is unreasonable to think it would have been better on Friday, feel free. '"


Ive told you the 2 reasons above.



Quote: DaveO "Never one to shy away from the insults are we? It really does you no credit.

Dave '"


Please show me where ive insulted you? I called you a know it all and arrogant. Observations of how you come across rather than insults. If you dont want to be called that then stop posting like your word on everything is final.

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Quote: Jack Kerley "

Now then, have you seen the league table lately, or do you think we still win the league every year, and the cup.

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If your going to join in the argument please

a)stick to the topic in hand that we are arguing about

b)make sense. What gives you the idea i think we are going to win the league and cup every year? icon_confused.gif

Finally yes i have seen the league table and what of it?

I can only assume you are still living 20 years in the past, Get over the fact that the salary cap has evened things up. This is not 1992 anymore. No wonder opposition fans take the mick out of us with people like you. Come back at the end of the season and we will inspect the league table then.

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Quote: DaveO "It isn't hindsight for some of us. He picked the wrong team and I was saying what team he should have picked earlier today.

Dave'"


Further proof of your arrogance and 'my word is final' attitude.

Once again i will ask for proof of how he picked the wrong team. For you to come out with a statement like that then you can only be assuming we would of won had he picked 'your' team.

Can i have the proof he picked the wrong team now?

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