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Quote: Bill_Barlow "Rubbish, every academy player needs guidance and protection during their time from academy to first team. Too many players at Wigan got threw in at the deep end and now we are following the way Saints brought these 2 through. When i say protected i dont mean they had people making tackles for them or holding their hands i mean in the way the players are prepared and advised. All comes under the coaching. Protection from overuse, theyre bodies are still developing and are going against big hard experienced men, ie given games and taken out to stop fatigue becoming a problem in their muscles and causing injury. Too many players by the time they are 30 are burnt out not in their peak, look at what happened to Rads, Sculthorpe, Faz just to name a few.'"


Do you think Rads or Faz were burned out? Both enjoyed testimonials. Maybe the Australians have it right as they always seem to and RL is a young mans sport which should be played much beyond the age of 30. IIRC Sculthorpe, Faz and Rads suffered injuries rather than burn out.

Nobody protected Shaun Edwards. If you are saying young players at Wigan are inadequately prepared as regards coaching compared to those at St Helens or Leeds then I would agree with you. That is the view of Mick Hogan too. Hogan hs been here what months, Noble years and one sees it, the other just made excuses.

The notion you can time when players begin their first team career is a fallacy. Most get their opportunities through necessity rather than anybody's choice.

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Quote: odemwingie "Im not doing it, but think people who do have a pop at him are entitled to their opinion. Some people have yet to accept that we are not going to be as dominant as we once were.'"


People do have the right to thier opinion, correct but to start a thread over just the littlest thing to have a pop at Noble is IMO very very sad. Some people are obsessed with criticising Noble and I get the feeling that even IF we won something this year, they would still turn round and say "Yeah we won it but we played poorly and didn't deserve it."

Noble will never win with some people.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Whats picking Pryce on the wing for GB got to do with him playing young lads?

At Bradford he regulary played young lads. How about Moore,both Pryce brothers,Langley,Reardon,Deacon and others ive no doubt forgot.'"


Deacon, Leon Pryce and Langley debuted under Elliott as did Fielden, Peacock and Parker.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "People do have the right to thier opinion, correct but to start a thread over just the littlest thing to have a pop at Noble is IMO very very sad. Some people are obsessed with criticising Noble and I get the feeling that even IF we won something this year, they would still turn round and say "Yeah we won it but we played poorly and didn't deserve it."

Noble will never win with some people.'"


Some people have already re-rationalised his bringing through of certain youth players by saying that he only did it because first-teamers were injured. My response to that would be that most youngsters who break through only really get the chance when injuries open gaps for them.

That said, I do feel that Noble has been slow to promote youth while he's been at Wigan. The real test for him now will be to keep faith with the likes of Ainscough and Sam. If those two disappear again as soon as the likes of Mathers and Phelps are back in contention, then everything the anti-Noble lobby says will be one stepper closer to being proved.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "And by the same token, Burrow and McGuire as 19 year olds had hardly played at Leeds.

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Burrow played about 17 games before he was 20, McGuire about 12. In winning teams.
Sam Tomkins (hopefully) will get to 4 before he's 20. And I'll not say owt about a winning team in our case.

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Quote: jackdog "Burrow played about 17 games before he was 20, McGuire about 12. In winning teams.
Sam Tomkins (hopefully) will get to 4 before he's 20. And I'll not say owt about a winning team in our case.'"


As someone has already said, you can't compare Mcguire and Burrow's development to S.Tomkins. ST developmental needs maybe different to what McGuire/Burrow's where.

Even when ST has played first team, something which fans have been crying out for, BN gets criticised for it. He can't win with some Wigan fans!

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