A good coach ?.....well there's too many points to raise, but given our current situation I would say a coach that wouldn't (if he were at all able to) field 6 props in the scrum and 7 second rowers......everywhere else

One who didn't think that 16 stones in weight (18 1/2 if you could possibly manage it) is the first prerequisite of a good Rugby League player.

Good points raised here about coaches.

One glaring omission seems to be a history, or heritage with the club. For instance, Edwards is being touted as the prodigal son for Wigan RL by many on here, because of his passion for the club, but no one has suggested that this is important in being a good coach. Is a coach's history at the club therefore simply a red herring? Or possibly even a negative point?

Can anyone name a coach who has succeeded at their own club? Alex Murphy is probably the closest that Saints have had, but was nowhere near as successful as the likes of Millward or Anderson who have no particular passion for the club. Monie and Lowe had no passion for Wigan, but were both hugely successful. Cullen, I believe is passionate about Warrington, but did his passion get in the way of success?

Intelligance is key.

Knowledge of the game and knowledge of individual players and knowing what motivates individuals within a team to perform together in the most effective way possible.

Wayne Bennett is a superb example, not just because of what he has achieved in terms of silverware but also from how players talk about him.

Jim Sullivan, Des Hasler and Graeme West for a start.

Eavesway are pretty good but National Express offer better value for money over long distance.