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| Anyone thinking of going to Widnes on Sunday? I was thinking of going but the trains are going to be up the creek following these strikes and I am not driving up on the day. So I am out.
I hope we play better than we did at the start of the season. A win would be nice, but under John Kear they will probably be too good for us.
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| Game changer this could be
Somehow grab a win here, seeing Dewsbury and Workington both very likey to lose, and we would start to open a gap between us and bottom 2
A loss would not be disasterous, but a win would really put the pressure on the two teams below us
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Mick Gledhill said eight days ago on The Full 80 that in his opinion London’s season was about to kick-start. No one can pretend that he has Pontifical infallibility but Bongser thinks he may be right. For anyone who doesn’t know the series, here’s a link to that episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JJlRpunoJQ
Let’s have a look at The Vikings. Back during chillier days, Widnes sat atop the pile on February 21st after winning their first four games. In doing so they scored 149 points for a difference of +101. One point was the margin at Fax, interestingly the other three wins came against Broncos, Worky & “Ewesbury”!
Then came Round 4 of The Challenge Cup and a visit to LSV to face a Leigh team that was yet to be bolstered by Inu & Ferguson. The wheels came off at that point and Widnes lost by 34 points.
By May 15th (83 days after Feb 21), they had played and lost a further six games on the bounce conceding 242 points in the process and seeing their points difference reduced to MINUS 27!
On that day they got their only win in what will be 186 days come KO on Sunday (that was against Whitehaven on plastic). In those 186 days you have scooped all five of your points (including that great draw at Barrow) and gone agonisingly close away at York. Meanwhile Widnes have played 12 (including the cup game) won 1, lost 11, scored 166, conceded 405!! The only reason they are still up in ninth place is the frailty of Thunder & Haven.
Victor, hope you are well. Your travel frustrations are shared. Week off and was planning to take la jeunesse Mme de Bongseur to Llandudno. Alas not to be. Nor will Bongser risk trying to get to Sheffield on Friday (mainly through fear of not getting back). Bongser has a stainless driving licence somewhere in a drawer but hasn’t driven since the ‘90s as he enjoys beer too much.
Quote ="Victor"....I hope we play better than we did at the start of the season. A win would be nice, but under John Kear they will probably be too good for us.'"
Nobody knows where they’re at in the first few games of a new season, especially after a large turnover of players. It was your first game, Leigh were well beaten in their second and haven’t looked back. In your fifth game you were beaten by only two points by a decent York team that you have since run equally close.
Who’s afraid of the “big” John Kear?
Ler’s recap his last 186 days. As coach of The Bulls he oversaw a home win (by 1) versus Batley, an end to their Challenge Cup “run” at home to Leigh, away wins at Workington & London (the latter by 2), then three home defeats (Barrow, Fax & Fev) before on April 26th he and Bradford parted ways “by mutual con…sent” packing! Since then he has had one game in charge of the Welsh Foreign Legion and that was comfortably won by France. Now he takes the rudder on a Norse longboat.
Why should London tremble? You know what you are going to see after a week of Kear coaching - five drives and a kick, five drives and a kick (repeat to fade). Bradford had/have better players than Kear’s present squad and the former’s results (and performances) have perked up since late April.
Just think Victor, if you had two wins on the bounce under your belts as you return to Plough Lane, Orangeman would be “going ape” at the marketing opportunities to a Wimbledon populace starved of live sport. Yes, yes there’s the All England Club but tennis is a game not a sport. As Alex Higgins once said to Bongser in a Manchester pub,
“Pro tennis players are athletes in their prime, just like top snooker, pool, darts & cribbage players.” Cliff Thorburn once chinned The Hurricane - there’s nowhere near enough rufty-tufty in tennis to make it a spectator sport but it’s all the BBC can afford.
Victor, Bongser & Oleta Adams agree on this, the latter two “Don’t care how you get there, just get there if you can.”
Widnes are there for the taking. TAKE THEM!
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Mick Gledhill said eight days ago on The Full 80 that in his opinion London’s season was about to kick-start. No one can pretend that he has Pontifical infallibility but Bongser thinks he may be right. For anyone who doesn’t know the series, here’s a link to that episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JJlRpunoJQ
Let’s have a look at The Vikings. Back during chillier days, Widnes sat atop the pile on February 21st after winning their first four games. In doing so they scored 149 points for a difference of +101. One point was the margin at Fax, interestingly the other three wins came against Broncos, Worky & “Ewesbury”!
Then came Round 4 of The Challenge Cup and a visit to LSV to face a Leigh team that was yet to be bolstered by Inu & Ferguson. The wheels came off at that point and Widnes lost by 34 points.
By May 15th (83 days after Feb 21), they had played and lost a further six games on the bounce conceding 242 points in the process and seeing their points difference reduced to MINUS 27!
On that day they got their only win in what will be 186 days come KO on Sunday (that was against Whitehaven on plastic). In those 186 days you have scooped all five of your points (including that great draw at Barrow) and gone agonisingly close away at York. Meanwhile Widnes have played 12 (including the cup game) won 1, lost 11, scored 166, conceded 405!! The only reason they are still up in ninth place is the frailty of Thunder & Haven.
Victor, hope you are well. Your travel frustrations are shared. Week off and was planning to take la jeunesse Mme de Bongseur to Llandudno. Alas not to be. Nor will Bongser risk trying to get to Sheffield on Friday (mainly through fear of not getting back). Bongser has a stainless driving licence somewhere in a drawer but hasn’t driven since the ‘90s as he enjoys beer too much.
Quote ="Victor"....I hope we play better than we did at the start of the season. A win would be nice, but under John Kear they will probably be too good for us.'"
Nobody knows where they’re at in the first few games of a new season, especially after a large turnover of players. It was your first game, Leigh were well beaten in their second and haven’t looked back. In your fifth game you were beaten by only two points by a decent York team that you have since run equally close.
Who’s afraid of the “big” John Kear?
Ler’s recap his last 186 days. As coach of The Bulls he oversaw a home win (by 1) versus Batley, an end to their Challenge Cup “run” at home to Leigh, away wins at Workington & London (the latter by 2), then three home defeats (Barrow, Fax & Fev) before on April 26th he and Bradford parted ways “by mutual con…sent” packing! Since then he has had one game in charge of the Welsh Foreign Legion and that was comfortably won by France. Now he takes the rudder on a Norse longboat.
Why should London tremble? You know what you are going to see after a week of Kear coaching - five drives and a kick, five drives and a kick (repeat to fade). Bradford had/have better players than Kear’s present squad and the former’s results (and performances) have perked up since late April.
Just think Victor, if you had two wins on the bounce under your belts as you return to Plough Lane, Orangeman would be “going ape” at the marketing opportunities to a Wimbledon populace starved of live sport. Yes, yes there’s the All England Club but tennis is a game not a sport. As Alex Higgins once said to Bongser in a Manchester pub,
“Pro tennis players are athletes in their prime, just like top snooker, pool, darts & cribbage players.” Cliff Thorburn once chinned The Hurricane - there’s nowhere near enough rufty-tufty in tennis to make it a spectator sport but it’s all the BBC can afford.
Victor, Bongser & Oleta Adams agree on this, the latter two “Don’t care how you get there, just get there if you can.”
Widnes are there for the taking. TAKE THEM!
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| Kieran will be in the Widnes ranks. He must get sick of playing London
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| Got there before Bongser WQ. As mentioned above, all know what the kicking pattern of a Kear team. We now can predict where the London kicks will go.
On the flip side, Leigh have also loaned Luis Roberts to Widnes. Decent Leigh grown lad if a bit, errm, over-enthusiastic at times.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Kieran will be in the Widnes ranks. He must get sick of playing London'"
Was he not at Rochdale five and a half minutes ago. I can’t keep up.
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| Not sure how this match will go. Widnes have been poor for some time but then again they didn’t pull up trees at our gaff and won at a canter. In fairness I think our side is better now. With that in mind Rams have kindly put the whole of our game with them on YouTube. From what I could see Parata put in his usual consistently high performance, Bienek tends to drift in and out of games but when he’s on he’s one of the best on the pitch. I thought the new Aussie played well and Davis gave us intent going forward especially when he was first introduced. The revelation was Macani who ran with a menace and purpose I haven’t seen from him before. As for our kicking game generally and from the tee I think there is loads of work to do. For all those who thought Dan Coates final effort against Widnes couldn’t be beaten our first attempt in this game is a little special. Onwards and upwards.
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| London lead 22-10 at HT. Bongser will not kibosh things by crowing just yet. COYL.
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| Kiboshed anyway. 22 each.
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| Not sure we came out at half time.
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| Losing 26-22 for those who aren't there. Or aren't listening. Not long to go,
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| Defeat from the jaws of victory. Annoying.
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| could have almost been safe, now still right in the mire
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| On paper we now have a pretty decent side and the bench looks strong to me but it’s never good to throw away a win. At least we have a shot at staying up but difficult not to feel a rethink is necessary for next season as this season has been a shambles. Hopefully we’ve learnt some of the things that don’t work.
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| The sort of situation where having a good coach would likely make all the difference, despite the good job Eccles is doing.
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| A whole series of nasty tweets from Jimmy (@ChanceYourArm4) against the Mike Eccles interview this evening.
Clearly someone with an axe to grind. Perhaps a disgruntled former employee ?
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| Quote ="jbuzza"A whole series of nasty tweets from Jimmy (@ChanceYourArm4) against the Mike Eccles interview this evening.
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Clearly someone with an axe to grind. Perhaps a disgruntled former employee ?
[urlhttps://ibb.co/ChQ2TjY[/url'"
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| Quote ="Benny Profane"Classy!'"
The old adage drink until you’re not enjoying it anymore could probably be updated to read drink until you start making a tool of yourself online. Hope this is just some random punter rather than ex employee but i confess I did wonder myself. In the days before the internet you could have a ‘bad pint’ and get away with it now it’s a xxxx shower.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"The sort of situation where having a good coach would likely make all the difference, despite the good job Eccles is doing.'"
Tend to agree.I’m like the way he seems to be going about his business but team seemed to step down a gear for the majority of second half or ran out of gas. Either way you’d like to think with the interchanges we had we should have had enough to get over the line.
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| Quote ="BigTime"The old adage drink until you’re not enjoying it anymore could probably be updated to read drink until you start making a tool of yourself online. Hope this is just some random punter rather than ex employee but i confess I did wonder myself. In the days before the internet you could have a ‘bad pint’ and get away with it now it’s a xxxx shower.'"
Apologies I didn’t read down to the end of the extract. Oh well. My prediction Orange will have something to say about this!
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| Quote ="BigTime"My prediction Orange will have something to say about this!'"
There's nothing to say really. Whomever this person is, they've done more than enough to expose themselves as a weasle. As for their identity, I can only say that I only know of one ex staff member who felt the need to get into a social media spat in the early hours whilst obviously worse for wear on drink.....
As for the game? Hard to read. Widnes have been poor of late.....Next week will tell us more about how far we're moving under this temporary coaching set up
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| Quote ="orangeman"There's nothing to say really. Whomever this person is, they've done more than enough to expose themselves as a weasle. As for their identity, I can only say that I only know of one ex staff member who felt the need to get into a social media spat in the early hours whilst obviously worse for wear on drink.....'"
There is no doubt who it is. I assume the club will be looking for a new kit supplier next season if they haven't already got one lined up.
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