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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



3 months to go until we start our season and I can honestly say that not since 2006 have I been as keen to get started.

Off the park I am expecting that we will attract more fans to games than we managed in 2014 (1,294) and would hope to see it nearer 3,000. 3k in that ground will be pretty intimidating given you can almost touch the players and home advantage is going to be key to survival.

The novelty of a new ground will help in terms of away fan numbers, but we really need to work hard on identifying the ex-pat Wigan/Saints/Leeds fans that live in the smoke but only come for their 1 game a year.....PLEASE COLLECT DATA ON EVERY TICKET SOLD icon_razz.gifRAY:

As soon as the fixtures are released (when is that BTW?), we need to plan for 11 EVENTS.......get local schools involved, contact CAMRA/local Brewers, local Businesses.......really get busy and start to build expectation. I'd get at least one under age side (15's?) going at the club and have trials involving all the schools local to the ground......

For the big 3, I'd make it all ticket with no walk ups permitted and I'd have the West London Chargers or Hammersmith Hoists playing as warm up games as often as possible.....Oh, one last thing. If we still have any data from previous seasons, for gods sake write to everyone......or call them, or email them.......I've had nowt from the club via email on years ('though that might be for a different reason icon_razz.gifIMP: ).......


On the park, it looks like we're building potentially the biggest pack in SL (how many props do we need???) and although I expect us to struggle, I'm going with 10th spot.......let's hope we pick up a centre and sammut signs..........I think we'll finish above Salford and Wakefield who for some reason have signed Brough????? That's like signing the plague IMHO....

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2nd to bottom, anything better than that a bonus. Wakefield have done well the last couple of years, agree about Salford - so fingers crossed

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Not getting relegated is my hope not necessarily an expectation.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: brian2 "2nd to bottom, anything better than that a bonus. Wakefield have done well the last couple of years, agree about Salford - so fingers crossed'"

Wakey have signed Poison and if they don't start well, he will be toxic in their dressing room.
HKR are a hard one to read as they've unloaded a fair chunk of their squad and I think they've recruited well, but if they don''t gel, I see them making up the bottom 4....
...FC need to win and win early BTW.....

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A lot depends on further recruits imo.
If the rumours re Amor and Morgan are true, then I'd be far more optimistic.
Add a quality half back and loose forward and I'd be very confident of avoiding relegation.

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Be happy if we stay up to be honest, that’s got to be the realistic expectation. But salford only survived last season due to one player, that will not be enough to get them through a season. Wakey could be interesting as folk say. Hudds could be in the lower end of league.
We have to grasp home advantage.

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Local schools! No! All london RL playing schools!

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CMG as the person I rely on for statistics, and because I am lazy, over the last few seasons how many points have the bottom placed team managed to collect? would give a benchmark for a minimum requirement we would need!

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Top 3 finish in the SL.

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The teams who finished bottom in the previous seasons are listed below:

2018 Widnes 6 pts
2017 Widnes 11 pts
2016 Huddersfield 12 pts
2015 Wakefield 6 pts
2014 Broncos 2 pts
2013 Salford 11 pts
2012 Widnes 12 pts
2011 Crusaders 8 pts

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Quote: "2018 Widnes 6 pts
2017 Widnes 11 pts
2016 Huddersfield 12 pts
2015 Wakefield 6 pts
2014 Broncos 2 pts
2013 Salford 11 pts
2012 Widnes 12 pts
2011 Crusaders 8 pts'"


thanks, on that basis we should aim for a minimum 14 points, i.e. 7 wins

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I just hope we can do better than in 2014. That was painful !!

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I have to agree. Fourteen points should be enough.
I think home games will be crucial to our survival. We need to make Trailfinders a fortress.The fact that we have an artificial pitch, which a lot of teams dislike, could be a help.

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Quote: "I have to agree. Fourteen points should be enough.
I think home games will be crucial to our survival. We need to make Trailfinders a fortress.The fact that we have an artificial pitch, which a lot of teams dislike, could be a help.'"


Certainly avoid 2014, particularly as I attended every home game except Leeds which we won!

home is key I agree, any away win will be a bonus!

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Yes 2014 was grim. We were lucky that we got that win and that Leeds took us lightly.I think they had one eye on the Cup Final. However if I remember that we were down in the first half and came back, we managed to hang on to win.
Not a good way to bow out of Super League.

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