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2012 First XVII currently picks itself - there are only 17 recognized first team players currently signed-up & announced!

L Dorn, J O'Callaghan, T Clubb, D Sarginson, C Melling, M Witt, C Gower, R Thomas, C Randall, M Bryant, J Golden, O Krasniqi, C Bailey.

SubsAustralian pre-2008 Exemption counts as Federation Trained
2 Jamie O'Callaghan Club Trained
3 Tony Clubb Club Trained
4 David Howell Australian pre-2008 Exemption counts as Federation Trained
5 Chris Melling Federation Trained
6 Luke Gale Bradford Bulls Federation Trained
7 Chad Randall Australian pre-2008 Exemption counts as Federation Trained
8 Karl Temata Out of Contract Complete Exemption from both registers due to Cook Islands passport and pre-2008 arrival effectively counts as non-overseas Federation Trained player
9 Andy Ellis Wakefield Federation Trained
10 Oliver Wilkes Wakefield Federation Trained
11 Nick Kouparitsas Out of Contract European passport Exemption Non-Federation Trained
12 Chris Bailey Australian Non-Federation Trained
13 Rob Purdham Cumbria
14 Jason Golden Federation Trained
15 Luke Ambler Leeds Rhinos Federation Trained
16 Mike Burnett Out of Contract Federation Trained
17 Danny Ward Out of Contract Federation Trained
18 Dave Williams Out of Contract Club Trained
19 Lamont Bryan Club Trained
20 Ben Bolger Club Trained
21 Olsi Krasniqi Club Trained
22 Omari Caro Club Trained
23 Mark Calderwood Out of Contract Federation Trained
24 Dan Sarginson Club Trained
25 Jack Latus Hunslet Hawks Federation Trained
26 Rob Thomas Club Trained
27 Joe Ridley Club Trained
28 Sam Bolger Club Trained
29 Will Lovell Club Trained
30 Max Edwards Club Trained
31 Karl Pryce Wigan Warriors Federation Trained
32 Joe Mellor Wigan Warriors Federation Trained
33 Lee Mitchell Warrington Wolves Federation Trained
34 Chris Riley Warrington Wolves Federation Trained
35 Kyle Briggs Bradford Bulls Federation Trained

Players linked Club Heritage/Passport Federation Status

Craig Gower - since confirmed by club Bayonne RU Australian/Italian Non-Federation Newcastle Knights Australian/Samoan Non-Federation Trained
Wakefield French
Mark Bryant - since confirmed by club Crusaders Complete Exemption from both registers for length of initial 2 year contract
Canterbury Bulldogs Australian/Scottish Non-Federation Trained Hull KR Federation Trained
This players is out of contract and rumoured to be signing on the Hull KR Fans site for Quins unless they can offload the contracted Peter Fox

Matt Cook Hull KR Club Trained?
This player is out of contract but I am yet to identify the source of rumour suggesting he may join

Michael Worrincy Windsor Wolves Club Trained
This player is out of contract and appeared to be mentioned as a possible signing on the Ian Ramsdale show

Rob Worrincy Halifax RL Club Trained
This player was mentioned as a possible signing by the Guardian

Dennis Tuffour York City Knights Club Trained
Sources close to the club have suggested that Dennis Tuffour will be returning now that he has completed his Hull degree; he was in our Academy

Harry Atkins London Irish Rugby Union Club will become Club Trained
Michael Witt - also confirmed by Club Crusaders Complete Exemption from both registers for length of initial 3 year contract
, assuming that Rob Thomas is added to the top 25 and no youngsters are promoted into the top 25.



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Rob Worrincy, suggested as a transfer target in the national Guardian half-way through last month and journalists don't normally do that sort of thing unless the club were interested.

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www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... nsong.html

Looks like we pulled the plug on the Nick Fozzard deal as well.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... nsong.html

Looks like we pulled the plug on the Nick Fozzard deal as well.


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Quote: Londo06 "www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3734562/Nick-Fozzard-fury-as-Crusaders-sign-off-ruins-his-Suoper-League-swansong.html

Looks like we pulled the plug on the Nick Fozzard deal as well.'"


Good.

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Fozzard's 34, and would probably have only come for a year - I don't really see the point of him signing to be honest. Gower is slightly different IMO insofar as he could provide a 'mentoring' role to Sarginson.

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Quote: Londo06 "www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3734562/Nick-Fozzard-fury-as-Crusaders-sign-off-ruins-his-Suoper-League-swansong.html

Looks like we pulled the plug on the Nick Fozzard deal as well.'"



Thank you for that.

He has not been of the right quality for a number of years and was looking for a swansong - or big pay off?

Would only have played 30 mins a game. Can't afford to many players like that.

Although weve had a few this year.

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Quote: markrammond "Name 2012 club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
1 Luke Dorn Australian Exemption
2 Jamie O'Callaghan Club Trained
3 Tony Clubb Club Trained
4 David Howell Australian Exemption
5 Chris Melling
6 Luke Gale Bradford Bulls
7 Chad Randall Australian Exemption
8 Karl Temata Out of Contract Exemption Exemption
9 Andy Ellis Wakefield
10 Oliver Wilkes Wakefield
11 Nick Kouparitsas Exemption Non-Federation Trained
12 Chris Bailey Australian Non-Federation Trained
13 Rob Purdham Cumbria
14 Jason Golden
15 Luke Ambler Leeds Rhinos
16 Mike Burnett Hull FC
17 Danny Ward Out of Contract
18 Dave Williams Out of Contract Club Trained
19 Lamont Bryan Club Trained
20 Ben Bolger Club Trained
21 Olsi Krasniqi Club Trained
22 Omari Caro Club Trained
23 Mark Calderwood Out of Contract
24 Dan Sarginson Club Trained
25 Jack Latus Hunslet Hawks
26 Rob Thomas Club Trained
27 Joe Ridley Club Trained
28 Sam Bolger Club Trained
29 Will Lovell Club Trained
30 Max Edwards Club Trained
31 Karl Pryce Wigan Warriors
32 Joe Mellor Wigan Warriors
33 Lee Mitchell Warrington Wolves
34 Chris Riley Warrington Wolves
35 Kyle Briggs Bradford Bulls

Players linked Club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
Craig Gower Bayonne RU Australian/Italian Non-Federation Trained
Antonio Kaufusi Newcastle Knights Australian/Samoan Non-Federation Trained
Julien Rinaldi Wakefield French Federation Trained
Mark Bryant Crusaders /Exemption Exemption
Chris Armit Canterbury Bulldogs Australian/Scottish Non-Federation Trained
Lloyd White Crusaders
Liam Colborn Hull KR
Matt Cook Hull KR
Michael Worrincy Windsor Wolves Club Trained
Dennis Tuffour York City Knights Club Trained'"


Matt Cook was in the London Broncos Academy several years ago, and as such should he be classed as club trained?

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... I can't blame Powell for trying to sign players with size and power given that pretty much all our forwards are no taller than 5"10 and even the props seem physically weaker than our outside backs.

However, I can and will blame Powell for releasing Wilkes and Ellis in a botched attempt to sign Fozzard and to bring back Rinaldi.

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I thought the rumour about Bryant had been doing the rounds before we knew of the Fozzard article in the Sun. so is it possible that Quins have pulled out from this deal and gone after another forward from Crusaders. i.e. O'Hara or Peek... icon_exclaim.gif icon_confused.gif:

Or even in the land of make believe the club have not gone for a forward but pulled out of the deal as they chasing Witt... a010.gif

On the Colborn rumour. do we really need him as i thought that Caro would be ready to step up to 1st team next season.
And if Powell thinks hes not ready, then he have to give a reason why not as plenty who have seen him play claims hes good enough for the 1st team, or does Powell have to ask Boss Randall first if ok to promote him to 1st team.. icon_lol.gif

Also if we have to go for a winger from HullKR then why not go for Fox, at least hes an England international

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Quote: markrammond "... I can't blame Powell for trying to sign players with size and power given that pretty much all our forwards are no taller than 5"10 and even the props seem physically weaker than our outside backs.

However, I can and will blame Powell for releasing Wilkes and Ellis in a botched attempt to sign Fozzard and to bring back Rinaldi.'"


I will be even more annoyed then you if we let Wilkes go and resign Ward..

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Sorry if I'm being dense here.

If Chris Bailey is our only person on the quota who is not exempt don't we have 4 quota places left?

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Tarl, there are 2 registers.

We can sign ONE Aussie or New Zealander whose passport states 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on the front to go with Dorn, Howell, Bailey and Randall.

We can also sign FOUR more overseas players. These can be Australians or New Zealanders providing they are devious enough to get a passport which does not state 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on it, anyone from the Pacific Islands, anyone whom has got an exemption from the RFL etc etc.

In practice we could get one e.g. Darren Lockyer whom is clearly Australian with an Australian passport but at least four players with a Star Wars Cantina style name (like the 35% of NRL players with Pacific heritage!).

Hull KR have 10 overseas players this season.

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Quote: markrammond "Tarl, there are 2 registers.

We can sign ONE Aussie or New Zealander whose passport states 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on the front to go with Dorn, Howell, Bailey and Randall.

We can also sign FOUR more overseas players. These can be Australians or New Zealanders providing they are devious enough to get a passport which does not state 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on it, anyone from the Pacific Islands, anyone whom has got an exemption from the RFL etc etc.

In practice we could get one e.g. Darren Lockyer whom is clearly Australian with an Australian passport but at least four players with a Star Wars Cantina style name (like the 35% of NRL players with Pacific heritage!).

Hull KR have 10 overseas players this season.'"


Thanks Mark

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We've signed Mark Bryant on a 2 year deal and Michael Witt on a 3 year deal

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Link.....confirmation......rumour????

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