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| Move the away supporters into either the North or South stands, one or both has been open for home games so far this year so there is no cost saving there.
This would mean that the ugly ish scenes at the end of the last game would be easier avoided (with the away supporters 'penned' in during a pasting) but more importantly (and I hate agreeing with Lister) it seems rediculous that supporters trying to introduce friends to the game find it hard to get seats together, not exactly conducive to them coming back.
I hate the East full stop even from my 'gold' seat I cannot see the touchline, but can see the POV of the club costwise, but so far at least one of the end stands has been open for every game, would probably look better on TV too.
Would also stop all the 'allocated seat' threads everytime a team comes to visit.
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| Quote ="nnl01"Move the away supporters into either the North or South stands, one or both has been open for home games so far this year so there is no cost saving there.
This would mean that the ugly ish scenes at the end of the last game would be easier avoided (with the away supporters 'penned' in during a pasting) but more importantly (and I hate agreeing with Lister) it seems rediculous that supporters trying to introduce friends to the game find it hard to get seats together, not exactly conducive to them coming back.
I hate the East full stop even from my 'gold' seat I cannot see the touchline, but can see the POV of the club costwise, but so far at least one of the end stands has been open for every game, would probably look better on TV too.
Would also stop all the 'allocated seat' threads everytime a team comes to visit.'"
Well said. As a customer, I also think Tesco should change their LOGO.....but guess what? They won't.
HTH.....
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| Been posted lots of times and nothing looks like being done.
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| This is year "0" for the club. The new regime needs time to bed in.
As much as I like to be served my beer in glass and would prefer to win every game, I don't always get what I want.
Get over it.
The East stand makes financial sense and unless you have the cash to replace IL or DH's money.....then shut the hell up!
I am the biggest critic of the back office, but I have agreed to shut up (for while).
I suggest that if you are really unhappy, you protest with your feet and don't turn up.
I for one want the club to survive and will happily sit anywhere....until we have the crowds that warrant opening up the whole ground.
I would suggest that MOST true fans would feel the same....maybe I am wrong
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
The East stand makes financial sense and unless you have the cash to replace IL or DH's money.....then shut the hell up!'"
I'm sorry but this is a pathetic argument and for a person of your intelligence I am amazed you are keeping up with it. As the OP pointed out, we are opening the North and Stand stands anyway.
Quote ="gutterfax"I am the biggest critic of the back office, but I have agreed to shut up (for while).'"
Who have you made this agreement with?
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I suggest that if you are really unhappy, you protest with your feet and don't turn up.
I for one want the club to survive and will happily sit anywhere....until we have the crowds that warrant opening up the whole ground.
I would suggest that MOST true fans would feel the same....maybe I am wrong
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Again, what sort of a comment is that? We want the club to provide a better matchday for EVERYONE, home fans, away fans, neutral fans, new fans, by doing something that would cost NOTHING more, and you suggest that instead we shouldn't bother coming anymore?
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| You had bad day gutters
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| Getting your beer in a glass, could cause problems.
Moving the away supporters into either the South or North stand cost the club nothing as one or both has been open for every game any way, thats nothing.
In fact if friends come for the first time and can't sit beside their mates, the current policy is costing the club money as they are unlikely to come back.
It's not the existing fan base we have to worry about, I still attend despite my own dislike of the east and will continue to do so, it the new fans that come along and get put off coming back that need to worry about.
It's no good the club taking the attitude this is year 0, there really is not the time, should they wait until next year, they need to act ASAP, another way of looking at it is that the club is -2.75 years away from extinction.
I may not have the money of IL but am still entitled to my view. Sure having the Lexus open was a problem but the club has come up with the worst solution.
Anyway the thread is supposed to be a PB should do .... I just started with the seating.
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| Quote ="nnl01"Getting your beer in a glass, could cause problems.
Moving the away supporters into either the South or North stand cost the club nothing as one or both has been open for every game any way, thats nothing.
In fact if friends come for the first time and can't sit beside their mates, the current policy is costing the club money as they are unlikely to come back.
It's not the existing fan base we have to worry about, I still attend despite my own dislike of the east and will continue to do so, it the new fans that come along and get put off coming back that need to worry about.
It's no good the club taking the attitude this is year 0, there really is not the time, should they wait until next year, they need to act ASAP, another way of looking at it is that the club is -2.75 years away from extinction.
I may not have the money of IL but am still entitled to my view. Sure having the Lexus open was a problem but the club has come up with the worst solution.
Anyway the thread is supposed to be a PB should do .... I just started with the seating.'"
Spot on. Best post on here in ages.
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| Quote ="Windy one"You had bad day gutters
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No...not at all. Just a little bit sick and tired of negative posts that do not offer a VIABLE solution.
I always offer a solution or potential solution when having a go, but some people just want to friggin moan for the sake of it.
as for nnl01 post regarding me being given my beer in a glass causing problems...I suggest you find out a little bit about me before making such sweeping judgements
Have you ever seen me do anything that would be deemed violent? Have you ever seen me cautioned by a steward or police officer? Have I ever been asked to leave the ground?
You sir/madam...are a first class knob!
Windy, now I am having the makings of a bad day so I am off to glass an old lady for her pension
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Well said. As a customer, I also think Tesco should change their LOGO.....but guess what? They won't.
HTH.....'"
Looking in from the outside as an IT genius not a sales guru, Tesco seem to be doing ok, Quins RL on the other hand ......
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| Paul Blanchard should ask for any data on lapsed supporters and ask why, what would make them return, and if needed give them a special ticket to show them what they are missing.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"No...not at all. Just a little bit sick and tired of negative posts that do not offer a VIABLE solution.
I always offer a solution or potential solution when having a go, but some people just want to friggin moan for the sake of it.
as for nnl01 post regarding me being given my beer in a glass causing problems...I suggest you find out a little bit about me before making such sweeping judgements
Have you ever seen me do anything that would be deemed violent? Have you ever seen me cautioned by a steward or police officer? Have I ever been asked to leave the ground?
You sir/madam...are a first class knob!
Windy, now I am having the makings of a bad day
so I am off to glass an old lady for her pension
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Sory that should have read as generic i.e. selling beer in a glass could cause poroblems at a rugby game, I would have thought that was obvious.
Oh lay of the personal insults to you .
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| Quote ="gutterfax"No...not at all. Just a little bit sick and tired of negative posts that do not offer a VIABLE solution.'"
What moving the away supporters at no cost to the club isn't viable? What planet are you on?
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| Quote ="nnl01"Sory that should have read as generic i.e. selling beer in a glass could cause poroblems at a rugby game, I would have thought that was obvious.
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Sorry....what part of this did I misread? I have only ever worried about trouble at a quins/Broncos game once and even then, wouldn't have ever imagined "glass being an issue".
Anyway....point is, we have 1 stand at present....let's just make the most of it and get behind the team!
Right, got to go, that pensioner is still twitching...one more jab to the neck should do it
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
Anyway....point is, we have 1 stand at present....let's just make the most of it and get behind the team!'"
WRONG .... so far the club has used three stands for the Wigan game and two for the Warrington game.
If you can't see there is potential trouble with glass at any mass support event then you are an idiot. Did you ever imagine a supporter would take their top off set fire to it and throw it? One idiot tried to do that at the Warrington game.
You didn't miss read but 'your' doesnt always mean you!
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| Quote ="nnl01". Did you ever imagine a supporter would take their top off set fire to it and throw it? One idiot tried to do that at the Warrington game. He failed because He had less intelligence than Our early ancestors
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| As for saying that its the same people moaning, its an open forum, If people are not happy then let em moan, altho going direct to the club might be the better option.
The East stand is causing problems!!
Home supporters generally dont like it!
away supporters I am sure dont like being shoved at one end of the stand, rather than being able to congregate on the half way line
You cannot see the near touch line
People bringing friends (potential new supporters) are put off as they cannot sit together unless they sit behind the sticks
The sun is always in yr eyes! thats why when i had the opportunity i took a seat over in the West stand
Ok Financially the club have made a decision! BUT it is going to effect people coming to games in the long run.
How many stewards does it take to police the north and south stands? combine the numbers and hey funy old thing then you probably have exactly the same number as last year.
The bar does not have to be opened
closing thought
Quick question for gutters, what would you prefer, people to air there views on here and have a good bloody arguement with each other, or stop coming to games?
At least airing our views on here lets the club know what we think
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| Quote ="gutterfax"No...not at all. Just a little bit sick and tired of negative posts that do not offer a VIABLE solution./quote In case you hadn't noticed the South stand has been open anyway but hardly used.
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| Quote ="gutterfax" rant rant '"
Who died and made you Queen of the Forum ? if you cannot see that the comment about beer, being sold in glasses, in a sports stadium, with sometimes vexed supporters, who may have been on the lash all day,[i could [/icause some H&S issues, and were not directly aimed[i at[/i you, then you need to spend a bit more time away from your 'putor mate............never had you down as Mr Angry the keyboard warrior.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"No...not at all. Just a little bit sick and tired of negative posts that do not offer a VIABLE solution.'" In case you hadn't noticed the South stand has been open anyway but hardly used.
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| As has been said, this is a perfectly legitimate grievance and one that needs addressing. The club are already opening two, sometimes three stands anyway, so lets properly co-ordinate things so that people can sit together!
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| Quote ="The Penguin"As has been said, this is a perfectly legitimate grievance and one that needs addressing. The club are already opening two, sometimes three stands anyway, so lets properly co-ordinate things so that people can sit together!'"
Have you tried using the new online ticketing system? It doesn't work properly for me but you can pick your seat. Would be interesting to see how many season ticket holders we actually have from that too.
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| Quote ="Homer"Who died and made you Queen of the Forum ?'"
Seriously, why don't those who resent the East stand experiment just walk up to Mr Hughes and Mr Blanchard in the Jesters? I am sure they will be willing to listen.
Banging off emails is all well and good, but a good old fashioned 1-2-1 is always best when trying to get your point accross.
As for the glass issue, I wasn't saying that it would be a good idea to serve beer in glass, just responding to the comment
"Getting your beer in a glass, could cause problems." which I may or may not have taken out of context.
Lastly and sorry if I am going over old ground here, but the club need to make ends meet and as such, have taken this current decision on both financial grounds and at the request of the TV company, who give the club £1,200,000+ a year.
I am sure the Club are looking at the Seating arrangements and will make a judgement on the success or failure in good time.
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| I notice you are STILL swerving the fact that they are already opening 2/3 stands and you are still rattling on about "financial grounds" and "making ends meet".
You are turning into the number 1 club apologist and its quite sad.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I notice you are STILL swerving the fact that they are already opening 2/3 stands and you are still rattling on about "financial grounds" and "making ends meet".
You are turning into the number 1 club apologist and its quite sad.'"
Sorry if you think I am becoming an apologist
I am not as it happens and I still seethe at the apparent lack of activity on the marketing front. A good example would be the tie-in with Chessington WOA....I have seen nothing advertised anywhere other than the site and the e-zine, which would seem a tad disapointing and a waste of another opportunity.
Still, I will await the turn around in activity I have been told will happen soon, but I won't hold my breath
Once again List, sorry
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