You don't have to use your imagination to discover how James Lowes will fair as a head coach.

If he couldn't get Warrington winning, there's no chance with us.

No club should base their future on away fans.

Many major RL Clubs do though, St Helens are proud to claim an average attendance of 11,000, take away the Wigan and Warrington supporters that travel to Knowsley Road for the derby games and Leeds fans and that average may be much closer to 9,000!

It is terrible business practice to rely on away fans. Wigan and Hull FC specifically target our games at theirs as a time to try to get more new fans into their grounds. This is the way forward. 2 of the top attendance averaging teams showing the rest of the league how it should be done.

I seem to remember boss hogg saying at a forum that quins were only going to target the big games........this is/was madness IMO. If you only try to attract fans NEW to the games , then target the ones where we have a chance of winning or it being a close game. It's not an exact science, but Salford, Catalans, Castleford (when we aren't hamstrung by the RFL naughty chair), HKR, Wakey, Hull FC, these are the games we should target.
Leeds, Wigan. Saints, Bradford...these are the teams with the traditionally bigger crowds in London. By all means promote them, but don't be stunned when we get 0% return.
Example.
St Helens average at the stoop is 5,277. Next year, does anyone want to hazzard a guess at the gate for this game. I'd say around the 4,500 mark. IF the club do have the marketing spend of the northern clubs, why pay money to market a game we know will be in the top 3 attendances of the season? Saints will always draw london based Saints fans....always has done and if the club want to spend money on this game, then FFS, try to identify these ex-pat fans and take down their contact details..AND F()CKING MARKET TO THEM!
Now...Salford. 2,682 average at the Stoop......and if you don't market it, it won't get any bigger than that. So market it, attract new fans to what should be a closer game than St Helens.....if we win, then the atmosphere in the Kings afterwards is better...more chance of repeat business.

I took a friend and his son to the Leeds game at Griffin park...the game we drew when botham kicked the conversion from the touchline (it gets further out every year...next year it will be from row c in the new road stand )....my mate loved it, but to this day, curses me, because his son started nagging him about going back to watch league and lost all interest in his Fulham Season Ticket. This is not the norm and neither was the result of that game, but neither is it unique. But, to have a chance of getting that "first game buzz" going, you need to get people to games where it might happen....and I'd back a result/close game v Salford over Leeds/Wigan/Saints any day of the week.

Why dont Quins employ a "head hunter" and go and seek interested parties to take over the club like they do in football.

...as long as they don't use the guy who blanked me
30k a week in losses from a turnover of 2.2 million is hardly going to be attractive to anyone is it.

You mean like the RFL do for the Championship clubs , they are willing to provide funds for them to employ somebody to find corporate support as long as it is new , over and above what a club already has

Problem being that nobody is interested in chucking money into clubs that cannot move any higher than the comp they are in

Bit of a waste really

The cheeky sods. Last time we asked for an increase in the weekly 50,000 pound backhanders we get from them they said they couldn't afford it....now we find out they are wasting money on Northern Clubs ....it's a fkn liberty

Do you not think they might have done?

Yep...they have. He's on 30k a week

The impression I get is they haven't- Im sure DH has asked around his business world but it makes you wonder if they have gone to private industry in general.

Losing money is what they do in soccer but that doesnt stop big players buying up clubs.

I think without another investor the future isnt that great

Warrington, Wigan and Leeds take a combined total of 26,000 fans to Knowsley Road?

Approx 8500 each visit per club-are you sure?-I know you will show me the av crowd and a crowd against each of those clubs and do some simple sums but I'm not sure its that simple-Whats Warringtons av crowd at home?

Just seen on Quins website that they are advertising for a casual coach for Quins Foundation starting Sep 2010.

Maybe this signals there is going to be a future at Quins.