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| Quote ="alanw"I think what daftdad means is as these are games in the past that we have been in with a shout of winning. but also they don't come with a large following of fans. So there before i think he means that these game would have been good ones to offer some deals on and boost the crowd.
Like daftdad said if we can grab a win or two in these games, it might then encourage them to come back for other game when some of the so called bigger clubs are in town.
well that's what I think he means...
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Yes you have hit the nail on the head.
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| So the fact that you may win one of the next 3 should bring those who didnt come to the last 2 games flocking in. Forgive me for being negative but I just don't see it.
I think it's clear that the Hive don't see any benefit in marketing these 3 games and have decided to save money for a larger away audience as the number of home fans is pitifull. Nothing I have seen so far suggests a huge latent support waiting to come, if anything it's the reverse and people are looking for reasons not to come.
I'm sure they could offer thousands of free tickets and get a couple of hundred extra through the door which will result in a few tens coming again. It's a sad state of affairs and I'm not condoning what the Hive have decided to do, just trying to understand the why.
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| What is wrong with giving out free tickets? Sounds like a good plan to me, if not free why not £1 and bring your mum, dad other adult? No point spending buckets of cash on games which will attract a decent crowd and possibly see LB lose at the same time.
Teams up North give out cheap tickets when LB visit, including Wigan, Hull etc. Ask yourself why they do this, it is to get the few tens as you say returning.
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| Quote ="meliferra"So the fact that you may win one of the next 3 should bring those who didnt come to the last 2 games flocking in. Forgive me for being negative but I just don't see it.
I think it's clear that the Hive don't see any benefit in marketing these 3 games and have decided to save money for a larger away audience as the number of home fans is pitifull. Nothing I have seen so far suggests a huge latent support waiting to come, if anything it's the reverse and people are looking for reasons not to come.
I'm sure they could offer thousands of free tickets and get a couple of hundred extra through the door which will result in a few tens coming again. It's a sad state of affairs and I'm not condoning what the Hive have decided to do, just trying to understand the why.'"
I understand the logic I think it just sends out the wrong message and upsets fans even more than they already are.
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| I can see the sense in not marketing the next 3 games.
The opposition is not attractive and we haven't won a game yet. I expect around 1000 for Wakefield and 600-800 for Cas and Cats. Market these hard and you may get a few hundred more to each.
Alternatively, wait and see if we win a game or two and when we get a Hull, Wigan, Saints, Leeds, etc. to the Hive, market hard on the basis of glamorous opposition and a competitive Broncos team. Precisely the same marketing spend could turn a 1500 gate into 2500.
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| They should be pushing the Cas game in particular as it is live on national TV. Will anyone seeing that think it is worth checking out Broncos games if half the stadium is closed?
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| Quote ="Colly2"I can see the sense in not marketing the next 3 games.
The opposition is not attractive and we haven't won a game yet. I expect around 1000 for Wakefield and 600-800 for Cas and Cats. Market these hard and you may get a few hundred more to each.
Alternatively, wait and see if we win a game or two and when we get a Hull, Wigan, Saints, Leeds, etc. to the Hive, market hard on the basis of glamorous opposition and a competitive Broncos team. Precisely the same marketing spend could turn a 1500 gate into 2500.'"
No offense, but as an ex-estate agent, I can honestly say that shows a complete lack of undestanding as to how marketing actually works, you've fallen in to the trap of thinking each house sale is a one off (or in this case Rugby Game or "SL Round"icon_wink.gif You MARKET the BRAND!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why d'ye think Estate Agents want their Boards plastered everywhere, long after the house was sold, on properties that often aren't even for sale....... So the brand gets lodged in peoples heads, sometimes they don't even realise it's lodged in there!
MARKETING is 24/7/365 and one quarter!!!!!!!

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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"
MARKETING is 24/7/365 and one quarter!!!!!!!
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Not if you have a limited budget. If you want to convert casuals/occasionals/neverbeens into attendees, and you can contact them just once, do you try and persuade them to come along on a Thursday night vs. Cas or a Saturday afternoon vs. Wigan?
Of course, in the meantime you do everything you can to build the brand, raise awareness, etc. but I am talking about where to target your extra push.
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| The Hive can't even get permission for a sign outside their entrance, never mind on other peoples doorsteps.
They applied for permission in March last year and the council are still dragging their heals with no date set for it to go to the planning committee.
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| When I worked as an Estate Agent, and I know they still do the same, they rarely ask permission, they just shove the board up, lmao.
Posters, Flyers often stay up for weeks and I don't remember my bosses having anywhere near the resources that Hughes/MacKay have.
Advertising is for a single event/product, MARKETING has to be for the Brand as a whole, over a sustained, prefferably never-ending period of time.
It shouldn't be that difficult as Sky and the RFL do a lot of this for themselves and I fail to see how we can't cheekily add ourselves on.
Take the internet, how many sites are there that just request you to "add your link here", can't one of them spend say 30 mins a day doing just that to all London relevent sites??????
My problem is that they seem to do.........NOTHING at all. So lets target the Wigan game to do NOTHING shall we?? They could have the players after training handing out flyers outside the local tube stations etc. But no, they'll do NOTHING!
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| OK. Advertising is not the same thing as marketing but it is a part of it and it comes out of the marketing budget. I am talking about selling a particular game hard so as to achieve maximum conversions on the basis that the club will gain higher revenues from in ground sales, will have contact info for these customers and that these customers will love the product and want to return.
However, I don't doubt that much more could be done to promote the club positively (again just another part of marketing) and here I absolutely agree with CP. There is an abundance of things that someone with energy and willing could be doing at almost no cost to raise awareness of the club. I accept that the folk at the Hive have been hamstrung by the lateness of receiving the 2013 customer database but I'm not sure they've done enough with it.
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| Quote ="meliferra"So the fact that you may win one of the next 3 should bring those who didnt come to the last 2 games flocking in. Forgive me for being negative but I just don't see it. '"
Tomorrow's game is arguably a must win for the Broncos. There was potential to market it as a key game for the club's survival. Instead we get an announcement that half the ground is going to be closed.
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| Careful now......I was an enthusiastic amateur marketer back in 2002........14 years of the bronco infatuation and now I own a marketing consultancy. Dangerous stuff!
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| Quote ="meliferra"£5 in the ground (350 spaces)
£2 Canons Park tube
Plenty of street parking but try to stay off Camrose ave as it causes jams.'"
Any idea what it's like getting out of the car park at the ground after a game? Don't want to end up taking an hour to get away like some did at Salford.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Any idea what it's like getting out of the car park at the ground after a game? Don't want to end up taking an hour to get away like some did at Salford.'"
Very easy at the moment. Would like to think it will change when we start winning 
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Careful now......I was an enthusiastic amateur marketer back in 2002........14 years of the bronco infatuation and now I own a marketing consultancy. Dangerous stuff!'"
So you're in 2016? The next two years must be bad if you're an example of the future 
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| Quote ="richie166"So you're in 2016? The next two years must be bad if you're an example of the future
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2002 - 2014.
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| Interesting that a 10k leaflet drop was done for the area around the hive for tomorrows game.
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| Quote ="meliferra"Interesting that a 10k leaflet drop was done for the area around the hive for tomorrows game.'" With a good offer ?
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| Quote ="meliferra"Interesting that a 10k leaflet drop was done for the area around the hive for tomorrows game.'"
Good stuff. Needs to happen for every game for the next 5 years and everyone who takes up the offer needs to have their data collected and their feedback sought. Alas, if the past is an indicator, it will happen once more and the be written off as a bad idea!
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| Quote ="jbuzza"With a good offer ?'"
I've been trying to find out but so far no joy,.I've already said on twitter that unless the incentive is more than just telling people that there is a game I cant see it having much effect on numbers.
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| Quote ="meliferra"I've been trying to find out but so far no joy,.I've already said on twitter that unless the incentive is more than just telling people that there is a game I cant see it having much effect on numbers.'"
Sticking posts in the ground and announcing a kick off time is standard marketing practice for the club. You'd hope that they would have given a decent incentive with a monitored call to action if they've spent a grand or so doing this.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Sticking posts in the ground and announcing a kick off time is standard marketing practice for the club. You'd hope that they would have given a decent incentive with a monitored call to action if they've spent a grand or so doing this.'" Do you know that they've done nothing else locally?
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Do you know that they've done nothing else locally?'"
Are you saying they have?
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| 10000 leaflets posted it says on FB
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