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| Here is a thought why don't a few fans bang their heads together like with this banner and do their own little marketing thing in their own time.
Fans shouldn't have to i know but what about a few getting together round strategic points round London
Oxford st, Piccadilly, Victoria, Shepherds bush, Earls court and promoting it.
Some flyer's, some enthusiasm, some team spirit and i agree that the Harlequins name should never have been adopted.
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| Quote ="nnl01"IL pumped 600K of his own cash into the club this year under an existing agreement (which was for the past two years). He should no longer be the major share holder by the end of the season (before anyone says DH is the major shareholder he is Chairman, the two are not mutually inclusive IL still has 60% of the shares).
Unless of course things have changed in the background.'"
My understanding is that Ian Lenegen still has his 60% shareholding in Quins RL, but under the agreement with the RFL to buy Wigan Warriors he has to "dispose" of his Quins shareholding by end of October 2009.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Here is a thought why don't a few fans bang their heads together like with this banner and do their own little marketing thing in their own time.
Fans shouldn't have to i know but what about a few getting together round strategic points round London
Oxford st, Piccadilly, Victoria, Shepherds bush, Earls court and promoting it.
Some flyer's, some enthusiasm, some team spirit and i agree that the Harlequins name should never have been adopted.'"
You've said it yourself, there is no reason why fans should have to do such a thing. The people working at the club are a joke and a complete embarrassment and are slowly killing us.
And its a load of rubbish that we should never have adopted the most recognisable brand in world rugby. We just aren't using it right. The Broncos were more anonymous - people thought they were are a basketball or american football team.
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| Quote ="nnl01"There was supposed to be half price tickets for this game for those that came free to Wakefield, if if 100 had cam back it would have been a start but the offer didn't materialise. (A)Pathetic.'" Agreed, and this is something I am angry about. The two friends I brought to the Wakefield match on the pair of free tickets loved the experience and wanted to come to the Celtic & Leeds matches on the discounted ticket offer. They never received any further information from the club despite being told that the club would contact them with information on how to get their discounted tickets for yesterday's game.
I am emailing the club about this and several other fiascos. Any response I get I'll reproduce on here.
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| Quote ="Surreyben" Any response I get I'll reproduce on here.'"
Why even suggest something that will clearly never happen?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You've said it yourself, there is no reason why fans should have to do such a thing. The people working at the club are a joke and a complete embarrassment and are slowly killing us.
And its a load of rubbish that we should never have adopted the most recognisable brand in world rugby. We just aren't using it right. The Broncos were more anonymous - people thought they were are a basketball or american football team.'"
Union despise us with a passion so why would they help us ?
And like i said fans shouldn't have to market the game but surely a little help wouldn't go a miss.
It does seem slightly hypocritical to slag the complete lack of marketing and at the same time saying sod it im doing nothing.
I try to sell this game to everyone i know down here, i've even paid for tickets so that they didn't have the "i have no money excuse"
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Union despise us with a passion so why would they help us ?'"
Evidence please. I think you'll find you couldn't be more wrong with that comment.
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And like i said fans shouldn't have to market the game but surely a little help wouldn't go a miss.
It does seem slightly hypocritical to slag the complete lack of marketing and at the same time saying sod it im doing nothing.
I try to sell this game to everyone i know down here, i've even paid for tickets so that they didn't have the "i have no money excuse"'"
Are you for real? So we can't have a go at the people paid to do a job, and we should be volunteering and it doing it outselves (because they are clueless) for free?
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| Quote ="KensalGreenRL"..If you loved the game, you would want to see a successful team in London. Newsflash- the majority of people in the country don't know or care where sh*t holes like Castleford and St Helens are. The only way the game will grow and raise it's profile is through expansion...'"
Yup.
That should get the support rolling in
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Evidence please. I think you'll find you couldn't be more wrong with that comment.
Are you for real? So we can't have a go at the people paid to do a job, and we should be volunteering and it doing it outselves (because they are clueless) for free?
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Why are you attacking me.
Ok let's critise the board because they are rubbish but we can still help out.
So your idea is sit on your computer and slate the board on RLFans and send them some nice emails too, even go to the meetings and tell them in person how bad they are YET at the same do nothing yourself and then watch the club go under. You can then say well it wasn't my fault im just a fan ?
The board have the biggest responsibility this i accept but the fans/supporters should always do their part. Or is it just easier to critise and do nothing and blame others and [ilaugh[/i at those that might offer an alternate view because again that's the easy thing to do.
I apologise in advance for my seemingly tiny intellect compared to yours 'the mighty lister'
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Why are you attacking me.
Ok let's critise the board because they are rubbish but we can still help out.
So your idea is sit on your computer and slate the board on RLFans and send them some nice emails too, even go to the meetings and tell them in person how bad they are YET at the same do nothing yourself and then watch the club go under. You can then say well it wasn't my fault im just a fan ?
The board have the biggest responsibility this i accept but the fans/supporters should always do their part. Or is it just easier to critise and do nothing and blame others and [ilaugh[/i at those that might offer an alternate view because again that's the easy thing to do.
I apologise in advance for my seemingly tiny intellect compared to yours 'the mighty lister'
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You came on branding anyone that complains a hypocrite
Again, I ask the quesiton, why should the supporters of a multimillion pound business have to do their jobs for them? You think Leeds supporters hand out flyers in the city centre? Or maybe Wigan RL supporters give discountened tickets to Latics fans?
You are clueless.
Oh, and wheres your evidence to support your claim that Union "despise us with a passion"?
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Union despise us with a passion so why would they help us ?'"
So how many chips do you need to balance the other shoulder?
I was at the game yesterday with 3 other Quins RU season ticket holders, and I recognised at least a dozen others, as well as a few people wearing union shirts.
I've been to every home match this season, but perhaps I should stop so you can wallow in your self pity.
I think you'll find that the majority of union supporters have no particular feelings about RL - the same as RL supporters feel about union.
What does alienate people is stupid comments such as that made above.
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| I wonder if anyone has the attendance records for the period of Richards Branson’s time owning the Club. We had a great team with rugby legends such as Offiah and Edwards, but ultimately we had a team that was fantastically marketed across the capital.
The main thing I remember from that period apart from the great games and atmosphere was the marketing of the game that Branson achieved, if you were out and about in London you new that London had a rugby league team as it was in papers such as the Standard, on bill boards at train stations, there used to be free tickets given out and when at the Stoop the first time round the people of Twickenham new that there was a rugby league team playing every other week.
I know it is probably unrealistic to hope that Branson will come back, but we ultimately need an injection of cash that will go specifically into marketing the game and team throughout the London area. I'm sure Branson and his team spent a lot of money marketing the team and that will have to be done again if we are to get an increase in our average attendances.
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| Quote ="SteveQuin"So how many chips do you need to balance the other shoulder?
I was at the game yesterday with 3 other Quins RU season ticket holders, and I recognised at least a dozen others, as well as a few people wearing union shirts.
I've been to every home match this season, but perhaps I should stop so you can wallow in your self pity.
I think you'll find that the majority of union supporters have no particular feelings about RL - the same as RL supporters feel about union.
What does alienate people is stupid comments such as that made above.'"
There are plenty on here too that have season tickets at both. I would go as far as saying a lot of RU supporters have a huge amount of respect for RL, more than any other sport.
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| Quote ="Quin Eagle"The main thing I remember from that period apart from the great games and atmosphere was the marketing of the game that Branson achieved, if you were out and about in London you new that London had a rugby league team as it was in papers such as the Standard, on bill boards at train stations, there used to be free tickets given out and when at the Stoop the first time round the people of Twickenham new that there was a rugby league team playing every other week.
I know it is probably unrealistic to hope that Branson will come back, but we ultimately need an injection of cash that will go specifically into marketing the game and team throughout the London area. I'm sure Branson and his team spent a lot of money marketing the team and that will have to be done again if we are to get an increase in our average attendances.'"
Indeed. Although, GF's suggestions before have proved that you don't need huge amounts of money to get bums on seats.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You came on branding anyone that complains a hypocrite
Again, I ask the quesiton, why should the supporters of a multimillion pound business have to do their jobs for them? You think Leeds supporters hand out flyers in the city centre? Or maybe Wigan RL supporters give discountened tickets to Latics fans?
You are clueless.
Oh, and wheres your evidence to support your claim that Union "despise us with a passion"?'"
They write it down all the time in the same way the government work for the people because they tell us they do.
Union would love it if our game was dead because then all the people who would want to play rugby would have one option.
It's the same as people in your line of work would love to see their competitors dead and buried.
What's wrong with helping out ?
Whats clueless about that?
Football as a whole is marketed better than rugby so using a football comparison is a weak argument.
So keep laughing Lister you smug old goat, you're no better than a flatcapper and if the quins go down i'll still have my team Warrington.
I want Quins to do well, i want them to be a big success i want to go down to the stoop or griffin park or anywhere in London to watch them because i enjoy the game but if they go im sorry but it wouldn't be the biggest event of my life.
What makes you such an expert?
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Somehow I doubt the name has any impact on the crowd size.'"
You haven't got a name. Your avatar, Quins RL, AFAIK, was dropped. 'Harlequins Rugby League' was its replacement. This is so long that it is totally unusable, so it didn't get used by the press. 'Quins' did instead. Except Quins is well known to be the name of an existing rugby team. And so we have a sports team without a name of its own. And I am still scratching my head as to why so many interested and thoughtful posters can't see the issue here.
It's not the only problem but it is a big problem and it needs sorting.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"They write it down all the time in the same way the government work for the people because they tell us they do.
Union would love it if our game was dead because then all the people who would want to play rugby would have one option.
It's the same as people in your line of work would love to see their competitors dead and buried.
What's wrong with helping out ?
Whats clueless about that?
Football as a whole is marketed better than rugby so using a football comparison is a weak argument.
So keep laughing Lister you smug old goat, you're no better than a flatcapper and if the quins go down i'll still have my team Warrington.
I want Quins to do well, i want them to be a big success i want to go down to the stoop or griffin park or anywhere in London to watch them because i enjoy the game but if they go im sorry but it wouldn't be the biggest event of my life.
What makes you such an expert?'"
I give up.
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| Wanted Marketing manager Apply Quins Rl. Salary 10% of every extra 1000 season tickets sold. 15% of tickets sold to non season ticket holders through the season(away tickets sold dont count)Bet someone out there would put the effort in then.
Employ a matchday marketing manager on sale returns(executive boxes etc) Might just start see the crowds We need to
A/ carry on competing at the right end of the table
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| Quote ="af"You haven't got a name. Your avatar, Quins RL, AFAIK, was dropped. 'Harlequins Rugby League' was its replacement. This is so long that it is totally unusable, so it didn't get used by the press. 'Quins' did instead. Except Quins is well known to be the name of an existing rugby team. And so we have a sports team without a name of its own. And I am still scratching my head as to why so many interested and thoughtful posters can't see the issue here.
It's not the only problem but it is a big problem and it needs sorting.'"
i agree
Arsenal are a big name too in London a bigger name than Quins but they wouldn't trade off that name either.
But Arsenal are a football team?
Well Quins are a Union team what's the difference ?
If i was an Spurs football supporter i wouldn't support an Arsenal RUGBY team because of the name. So there you go alienate Saracens London irish support straight away.
London Broncos were always the way forward if people thought that was a basketball team that was just down to the marketing but hey the crowds are down under the quins name so big success there then
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i agree
Arsenal are a big name too in London a bigger name than Quins but they wouldn't trade off that name either.
But Arsenal are a football team?
Well Quins are a Union team what's the difference ?
If i was an Spurs football supporter i wouldn't support an Arsenal RUGBY team because of the name. So there you go alienate Saracens London irish support straight away.
London Broncos was always the way forward if people thought that was a basketball team that was just down to the marketing but hey the crowds are down under the quins name so big success there then
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Bloody hell.
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Bloody hell.'"
at your eloquent smug condescending best again hey lister.
and celtic lost again, oh and day turned to night again yesterday
[size=75waits for inevitable put down or lol icon[/size
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"at your eloquent smug condescending best again hey lister.
and celtic lost again, oh and day turned to night again yesterday
[size=75waits for inevitable put down or lol icon[/size'"
Nah, got better things to do than reply to complete rubbish.
Bye.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"
If i was an Spurs football supporter i wouldn't support an Arsenal RUGBY team because of the name. So there you go alienate Saracens London irish support straight away.'"
But you have been saying Union hate League, so the name doesnt matter, by your assesment of their hatred Quins RL have alienated them just by existing.
Make your mind up either union fans will come and watch rugby league but under a name not associated with a rival union team or union hate league.
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| Quote ="nnl01"But you have been saying Union hate League, so the name doesnt matter, by your assesment of their hatred Quins RL have alienated them just by existing.
Make your mind up either union fans will come and watch rugby league but under a name not associated with a rival union team or union hate league.'"
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
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| Quote ="nnl01"But you have been saying Union hate League, so the name doesnt matter, by your assesment of their hatred Quins RL have alienated them just by existing.
Make your mind up either union fans will come and watch rugby league but under a name not associated with a rival union team or union hate league.'"
im on about the people who run the game, the bigwigs so to speak
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