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| I notice you are [size=200STILL[/size swerving the fact that they are already opening 2/3 stands and you are [size=200STILL[/size rattling on about "financial grounds" and "making ends meet".
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| I've been to two games this season, I stupidly decided against a season ticket due to travel plans (wish the £65 was still around). Each game I've brought with me 4-5 friends who were newbies. Now due to lack of commitment and waiting for weather on their behalf we've been walk-ups early in the afternoon and have scored ordinary seats each game.
Now while you can say this is my fault for buying on the day, the guys that come with me (or other new fans) dont know the reasons behind opening one stand and just see spare seats all around the stadium from their front row view.
If the club is going to open up the south/north stands regardless, wouldnt it be easier to sell GA tickets to away fans in one of these stands? Giving more room for home fans to bring friends and get a better view.
Currently we are severly restricting the clubs room for growth on ticket sales, and leaving a bad taste in the mouth of new fans and away fans. The cost of moving all away fans into a southern/northern stand would be minimal (on current costs), while potentially reaping extra revenue from future ticket sales.
This Saturday I have only 1 friend returning from the 9 that have come with me this season, I might be able to coax 1 or 2 new comers. The others while enjoyed the atmosphere pre and post game, were'nt impressed with their seats. Yes we could buy earlier, but there are often factors that prevent securing exact numbers until game day.
At the moment, the club is shooting itself in the foot. I beleive I can speak with some experience as the ticketing manager of a major sport from back in Aus.
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| Sense is not something that is particularly prevalent at the club at the moment.
But hey, if gutterfax says its OK than it must be
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I notice you are [size=200STILL[/size swerving the fact that they are already opening 2/3 stands and you are [size=200STILL[/size rattling on about "financial grounds" and "making ends meet".
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Nope...not swerving it at all. Can't say I have noticed the south and North stands open. Saw a few kids (looked like players) in the South at the wire game, but didn't notice people sitting in the North. If that is the case, then yes, the club should sell seats in the North to Away fans. As for the financial grounds stuff, I thought I had explained that one.
Let's try again shall we.......
Average gates of 4,000 odd..with average receipts of £38k a game. £494k from 13 games....so let's round that up to £500k. Maybe another 500k from residuals such as jerseys, beer, food etc......
SKY..........give us £1,250,000 a year and have asked us to experiment with the 1 full stand scenario. You and I know that it won't work, but the single biggest revenue source for the club have asked them to try it.......so they are.
Sorry
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| Quote Can't say I have noticed the south and North stands open'"
Whats the point of reading any more of your post when you say that?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
Whats the point of reading any more of your post when you say that?'"
sorry
I was too busy watching the game, rather than looking at the stands.
Just looked at the booking site and it would seem that nearly all the Jester cheap seats are gone, but there are plenty of £25 seats available.......Some right beside L&L.
Also, the only place you can book seats on the site is the East.......both the south and north are not available.
Really sorry
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nope...not swerving it at all. Can't say I have noticed the south and North stands open. Saw a few kids (looked like players) in the South at the wire game, but didn't notice people sitting in the North. If that is the case, then yes, the club should sell seats in the North to Away fans. As for the financial grounds stuff, I thought I had explained that one.
Let's try again shall we.......
Average gates of 4,000 odd..with average receipts of £38k a game. £494k from 13 games....so let's round that up to £500k. Maybe another 500k from residuals such as jerseys, beer, food etc......
SKY..........give us £1,250,000 a year and have asked us to experiment with the 1 full stand scenario. You and I know that it won't work, but the single biggest revenue source for the club have asked them to try it.......so they are.
Sorry
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We understand the reasoning behind the move....
However, the stands behind the sticks have been opened in games that I've been to. So therefore instead of using them as overflow, open ONE of them up for away and sell as GA.
IF we fill our stand, open up the other stand behind the sticks as overflow. Its simple, gives all fans a better experience, allows for growth, keeps SKY TV happy.
At the moment having the two ends empty looks worse then the scenario we are talking of having one partially filled and the main stand 3/4 full.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
You really are clueless when it comes to this.'"
I'm hearing you listy
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| Quote ="gutterfax"sorry
I was too busy watching the game, rather than looking at the stands.
Just looked at the booking site and it would seem that nearly all the Jester cheap seats are gone, but there are plenty of £25 seats available.......Some right beside L&L.
Also, the only place you can book seats on the site is the East.......both the south and north are not available.
Really sorry
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Well thats great, restrict fans if £15 tickets are gone (for a 12k stadium) and force them to buy of their price range at £25...
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| Quote ="hindyscrack"Well thats great, restrict fans if £15 tickets are gone (for a 12k stadium) and force them to buy of their price range at £25...'"
New supporters will LOVE that won't they?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"New supporters will LOVE that won't they?'"
Paying £25 for a ticket I could walk up and get for £10 last year?
I wont be able to get any of the guys to come for £25, I can get premier league tickets at that price.
Was going to come this weekend, but looking at availability it looks like its easier to watch on SKY
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
You really are clueless when it comes to this.'"
sorry. I must pay more attention to the crowd, stewards and away fans than to the game........
I buy walk up tickets. I am not particularly pleased with the selection of seats left when I get there an hour before KO, but what the hell, these are the chances i take and choices I make.
There are appx 1,150 ST holders, leaving about 3,000 seats to choose from if you book on line or over the phone.
AA, AB, AH and AJ are the cheap seats, with AA and AB for the away crew. That's 1,000 seats at 500 a block. So, with 2,000 seats left to fill 1,000 being Jester, the rest premium, there is always a chance that you won't get seats together in prime position. This is not the clubs fault. To the poster who can't commit until match day, you can still call up in the morning and collect your tickets when you arrive.
I can see the point being made about openeing the North for Away fans only......but I refer you back to my observation regarding SKY, the request they made and the £1,200,000 that the club receives.
FWIW, on the club site, the Jester seats in AA, AH ans AJ are pretty much gone, so loads of walk ups may get a nasty suprise when the roll up and get asked for £25 notes instead of the £15 they expect to pay.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
FWIW, on the club site, the Jester seats in AA, AH ans AJ are pretty much gone, so loads of walk ups may get a nasty suprise when the roll up and get asked for £25 notes instead of the £15 they expect to pay.'"
And you dont see this as a major problem?
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| This is a stupid thread.
1- away fans were behind the goal - we moaned it gave them an advantage
2 we moved to Lexus and they moved to the east stand - people moaned about having to sit in expensive seats.
3 we move back - everyone complains that the view is rubbish - get over it you spoiled noob the view is fine.
4 We complain away fans arent behind the goal.
our fans are idiots
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| Quote ="Darthchris"This is a stupid thread.
1- away fans were behind the goal - we moaned it gave them an advantage
2 we moved to Lexus and they moved to the east stand - people moaned about having to sit in expensive seats.
3 we move back - everyone complains that the view is rubbish - get over it you spoiled noob the view is fine.
4 We complain away fans arent behind the goal.
our fans are idiots'"
Therein lies the problem....you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Looking forward to watching Listy tackle David Hiughes on this on Saturday
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| After much gnashing of teeth regarding the £15-£25 seat scenario in the East Stand Only available saga........I feel it's worth while those posters who have thoughts on this either posting their ideas on this thread, or PM- ing me.
I have no doubt that the club will listen to a "unified" question regarding this, together with ticketing and prices, but it just seems that some will simply post on here and either stump up the £25 or just not turn up.
Neither of these is an ideal situation, as has been pointed out that some "newbies" will pay the £15.....but not the £25.
I also freely admit to not being fully up to date with what is open to all and not, with regard to the south/north stand and will happily be guided by those who know what is what.
This is not to say I will be the one to offer this "unified" question, but it is obvious that this is an important issue.
Please do include a viable solution and a suitable reply to the "SKY have asked us to fill one stand" resonse we will get.
I look forward to your sensible replies.
Thanx
Barney
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| Quote ="gutterfax"sorry. I must pay more attention to the crowd, stewards and away fans than to the game........
I buy walk up tickets. I am not particularly pleased with the selection of seats left when I get there an hour before KO, but what the hell, these are the chances i take and choices I make.
There are appx 1,150 ST holders, leaving about 3,000 seats to choose from if you book on line or over the phone.
AA, AB, AH and AJ are the cheap seats, with AA and AB for the away crew. That's 1,000 seats at 500 a block. So, with 2,000 seats left to fill 1,000 being Jester, the rest premium, there is always a chance that you won't get seats together in prime position. This is not the clubs fault. To the poster who can't commit until match day, you can still call up in the morning and collect your tickets when you arrive.
I can see the point being made about openeing the North for Away fans only......but I refer you back to my observation regarding SKY, the request they made and the £1,200,000 that the club receives.
FWIW, on the club site, the Jester seats in AA, AH ans AJ are pretty much gone, so loads of walk ups may get a nasty suprise when the roll up and get asked for £25 notes instead of the £15 they expect to pay.'"
I love how you have made a total idiot of yourself and are still desperately trying to defend your ridiculous posts
You must pay more attention to the crowd? Its not difficult to look left and right and work out which stands are open.
The rest of the rubbish you come out with about finances is 100% IRRELEVENT as the stands are open anyway.
Feel free to keep digging though
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| Quote ="Darthchris"This is a stupid thread.
1- away fans were behind the goal - we moaned it gave them an advantage
2 we moved to Lexus and they moved to the east stand - people moaned about having to sit in expensive seats.
3 we move back - everyone complains that the view is rubbish - get over it you spoiled noob the view is fine.
4 We complain away fans arent behind the goal.
our fans are idiots'"
I think you are worse than GF
Who moaned about away fans being behind the goal?
Who complained about having to sit in expensive seats?
Well done for spectacularly missing the point on number 3.
And number 4 well done, you are finally grasping it
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| Quote ="gutterfax"After much gnashing of teeth regarding the £15-£25 seat scenario in the East Stand Only available saga........I feel it's worth while those posters who have thoughts on this either posting their ideas on this thread, or PM- ing me.
I have no doubt that the club will listen to a "unified" question regarding this, together with ticketing and prices, but it just seems that some will simply post on here and either stump up the £25 or just not turn up.
Neither of these is an ideal situation, as has been pointed out that some "newbies" will pay the £15.....but not the £25.
I also freely admit to not being fully up to date with what is open to all and not, with regard to the south/north stand and will happily be guided by those who know what is what.
This is not to say I will be the one to offer this "unified" question, but it is obvious that this is an important issue.
Please do include a viable solution and a suitable reply to the "SKY have asked us to fill one stand" resonse we will get.
I look forward to your sensible replies.
Thanx
Barney'"
Sky have asked us to fill one stand. We will be able to fill one stand if we allow for new people to come to the match. If we want to rely on away fans filling up the stand for the next 3 years then its a waste of time and there will be no more club. Simple as that.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I think you are worse than GF
Who moaned about away fans being behind the goal?
Who complained about having to sit in expensive seats?
Well done for spectacularly missing the point on number 3.
And number 4 well done, you are finally grasping it
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| glad to see the art of debating isn't lost
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"glad to see the art of debating isn't lost
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It is known in forum lexicon as being listy'd
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| Quote ="The Penguin"It is known in forum lexicon as being listy'd
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